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Should We Expect Anything From Armstead In 2014?

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    At most, I would hope he can be a JAG that can rotate with Chris Jones in the sub D, possibly taking Vellano's spot.

    As far as expectation, I don't have any. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he was cut. It's not like the guy is a known NFL commodity. He's a former CFL player with a laundry list of medical issues.
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    typical cheap patriots signing - sure, the guy has a million communicable diseases, is missing an arm and only has 6 toes....but we can get him for cheap and maybe he can be another "value" signing.....:rolleyes:
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    I pretty much led the Armstead bandwagon last year, and I still have high hopes for him. But I'm waiting to see how he comes back before passing judgment.

    The term "soft tissue infection" is very unrevealing. It can be anything from a superficial cellulitis to a life-threatening situation that drives patients into septic shock and multiple organ failure. I've taken care of hundreds of these patients, in all ranges. We don't know much about the specifics of Armstead's situation, but we do know the following:

    1. We know he had one surgery. Surgeries are done to debride (remove) infected or dead tissue and decrease the burden of infection so that it can be treated with antibiotics. Bacteria love to hide out in tissue spaces, and once they get a foothold, they are very hard to eradicate.

    2. Only one surgery was reported. It is commonplace with more significant infections to have to do serial debridements, so probably Armstead's infection wasn't horrible compared to what it could have been.

    3. IIRC, Armstead left the hospital within a week of his surgery, and it was never reported that he required intensive care unit level of care. This again suggests a lesser level of infection. More severe infections place a tremendous burden on the body, and usually mandate critical care stays.

    4. We know that Armstead was attending team meetings and seen at the facility within a month or so of his surgery, and looked relatively normal. Trust me, if he had had the more severe class of soft tissue infection, there never would have been a thought of his playing football this year, if ever again.

    Some of this is inference, but from medical knowledge and what has been reported, I believe that Armstead had a significant but not massive soft tissue infection, without any septic shock or organ dysfunction. We don't know the location of his infection.

    I'm guessing that the Pats chose to be cautious about rushing him back this year, but just the fact that they were monitoring it day-to-day before the deadline is encouraging. I'm hopeful that he will come back and be what I hoped he would be - a hybrid DT/DE who can be a significant part of both rotations - but after this kind of infection I'm not counting on anything until I see him get on the field and get a sense of how he looks.
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    Supposedly he looked really good in spring (REALLY good, I forget who it was who said it, Mike Loyko perhaps). I have to assume the infection isn't a career ender of they'd have already released him. I'm no doctor, I can't imagine what it was but he was around the facility a lot and they kept him so I'm optimistic.

    I think we should "expect" (to answer your question exactly) a good young athletic DT. No guarantees, however.

    After reading Mayo's explanation (nice to have someone who actually knows something), I remain cautiously optimistic. Although the Patriots don't always report setbacks or surgeries, it seemed like he was around enough that he wasn't undergoing more procedures and was "just" on a significant program to get rid of and watch for signs of the return of it. I wish one of the reporters who hears "whispers" knew something but I still feel good about him.
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    it would be nice to see him come into camp at 100% and try to make a roster spot but I Expect noting from him
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    I don't think the talent level should be questioned as much as it has been. He was a top player in the CFL, looked fantastic in offseason workouts, and Belichick was planning on him being a top 3 DT entering the season. He's clearly talented enough to contribute in some way more than a Chris Jones type of player.

    The only real question I have is his status after the infection. Obviously it affected him enough to the point where he couldn't play this season. There's really no way of knowing if he'll be at or near 100% by training camp.
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    If fully recovered I expect him to come to camp and compete for a roster slot. Injuries, unfortunately, have become the great equalizer in the NFL....
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    Staph maybe?

    Have you seen Kevin Randleman pics? That's scary.
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    I have few expectations, much like a 5th or 6th round draft choice.
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    Lots of different bugs, potentially. Staph, strep, pseudomonas, vibrio. Kevin Randleman is nothing. It's a pimple compared to the bad cases that I see.
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    I expect him to be a surprise break out player. The fact that they took the time to recruit him from the cfl and keep him on the roster is a good sign. Call it wishful thinking on my part.
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    I expect him to show up on the field for summer training camp. Is that too much?

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