Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by cupofjoe1962, Jul 21, 2014.
Sorry, Darryl, opinions are not yet against the law. I'm sure you guys will get to that in time.
There is a very large bitter pill out there for the Left Wing Liberal Media to swallow, they secretly realize that a great percentage of Black Americans are die hard Homophobes, people looking for facts, that is a fact.
I guess you missed it, but I agree completely.. guess you assumed.
Since when do liberals care about enforcing laws that are on the books?
Fact is Dungy was only saying what at least 25 NFL coaches/GMs were thinking. The media circus that ensued when Sam was drafted and the media circus going on right now proves his point.
Ha, surely you see the irony. Sorry, but here in realityville Sam received little criticism and much praise exceeding his talent when drafted, and if Dungy had caved to the censors like you wanted, nobody what know what he said. Your "bravely" joining the mob majority to beat down and censor minority opinions. Not the other way around.
Thisthisthis. It's nauseating how people act like there is any huge sort of "courage" involved in anything Sam has done. ESPN was effusive in their non-stop praise of the guy and put him kissing his boyfriend on a 24 hour loop while the guy who criticized ESPN for doing that was fined and suspended. It is a lynch mob mentality and then all those taking place in the lynch mob mentality congratulate themselves for how brave they are.
Please tell me where the "courage" is in coming out of the closet when the media will trip all over themselves to praise you and anyone who dares criticize you is severely punished.
The attempt to spin has led you into such absurd territory it's hardly worth a reply.
The reason Tebow is not a backup quarterback somewhere is that
1) He has no desire to be a backup quarterback, and
2) Your existing backup quarterback is better. Even if he's me.
SB39, being gay is still a hurt-magnet for many. It is brave even in this day and age to be "out." Things have changed in the last few years, for the better, from what I can tell. But yes, it was brave to just live as who he is, from coming out to his teammates to kissing his husband on TV. When you're the first one, not some follow-along jerk that just disses everything from the sidelines, you're the one asking yourself if it's time yet, if people are ready for it yet. You're the one who might end up with a ten square mile raft of bullsh1t coming your way.
And even in this day and age, you only need read some of the "bible based" opinions on this forum to determine whether hatred for homosexuality is still alive and well -- not to mention Dungy's self-righteous bullcrap about how he wouldn't want to deal with a gay player on his roster.
So now you know where the courage is. Perhaps you've never had to take a stand on being in other than the majority.
As the season wears on and Sam makes the team, much of this will subside and he will just be another NFL football player.. more players will eventually come out, as it is the law of averages.
I expected Dungy to say this, but it is his opinion as he has no ability to "hire"/draft Sam... Dungy, Phil Robertson and a cast of others if asked will spout the same story.. Limbaugh says that St. Louis is no longer a football team, but a "social experiment"... a lot of opinions, but in reality he is what he is, a gay man playing football.
Dungy has coached gay football players, but does not know it yet... he praised Marvin Harrison who was implicated in a bunch of bad crap.. in Dungy's world criminal behavior acceptable, being gay not acceptable. It speaks more about his ability to coach a player like Sam than anything else.
He's a relic. Good thing he's out of coaching. He's not equipped for this century.
It has nothing to do with opinion ...
Everything to do with courage ......
Go look at my original posts before I even heard dungy give more clarification on his comments. Even then I said, playing with a gay person would not be the problem. The problem for a guy with Dungy's beliefs would be the media questions. I never spun anything and have said the same thing the whole time.
We need more people like Tony Dungy. The fact that he's a relic is a very bad thing IMO.
No need to assume. I just read your post.
PR was talking about peoples' beliefs:
You responded that people with such beliefs should be disqualified from employment:
Which (ironically) sounds like you are advocating discrimination.
Nope ... we need more courageous and less cowards.
I bet his opinion, which it took true courage to voice, is far more representative of GM's and coaches in the NFL than not.
I have no doubt that if you gave Bill Belichick truth serum and asked him the same question, you would either get the same answer or an answer which is far more harsh. Does that make Belichick a relic who shouldn't be coaching this century too?
I can tell you hate Dungy for it. But honestly, in today's political media climate, I think it takes more courage to state your belief that homosexual acts are a sin. Michael Sam got and Espy and a call from the White House while Tony Dungy got lambasted by the media.
Being politically incorrect can ruin a public figures life, sad state of affairs, insanity.
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