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  1. PatSunday

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    From the Colts forums:

    "Tim Tebow won a playoff game last year in OT with the same overrated team. Not only that, but he did it without two special teams TDs."

    "With 30 seconds left, the supposed GOAT would be expected to take the game in his hand and put it in the air. No way Brady isn't throwing there.

    Instead, they go to a conservative run and elect to punt the ball away. In OT a critical Peyton interception leads to the Ravens game winning FG drive.

    This shows that those years of post season disappointments in Indy wasn't just a Colts thing...it was largely a Peyton thing and its followed him to Denver. "
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  2. LetsGoPats36

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    Good lord. Are people legitimately that reactionary/stupid?
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    LOL. Neither Manning nor Tebow plays defense. Two special teams TDs and you lose? C'mon man!!!
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    I think any team who has a quarterback that takes you into the playoffs, and especially wins, should keep that QB for the next year. Tebow's no exception.

    Especially when that QB had no off-season to practice a new type of NFL offense the coaches had little experience with. This year's avalanche of spread option offenses proves Denver could have been ahead of the game. Instead they took a step back.
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    no lol, but it is fun to laugh about
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    Peyton is who he is based upon his regular season prowess. His post-season performances are ignored or excuses are made for it. Denver got a great regualr-season QB, but a 50/50 post-season QB AT BEST. Manning has a tough time winning the BIG games at EVERY level.
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    Those are taken from posts in the official Colts forum. Given that Manning gets credit for everything the offense does (one sportscaster said that the Denver offensive line made adjustments in the 2nd quarter, and that Manning must have played a big role in that, for example), he should also get credit for taking a knee with 30 seconds and two timeouts left, right?
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    It IS funny that Peyton didn't get as far in the playoffs this year as Tebow did the year before. :D
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    I said they shoulda kept Tebow as a joke.

    Someone actually thinks this for real is, well, curious.

    Peyton looked his age near the end there though.
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    That to me, would have been a TMQ moment where he writes "game over" in his notebook. WTF? Why didn't they try to get into field goal range there? Loser mentality and they paid dearly for it. That can't be blamed on anyone except the coach, though.
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    I look at it this way:

    - Denver couldn't get any further in hte playoffs with Manning than they did with Tebow
    - But Tebow couldn't beat out Sanchez in New York
    - Therefore, if they want to get to the next level, Denver should really trade for Sanchez

    It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
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    Someone pointed out that in-fact they did with the same result. What I think you were pointing out is that Tebow won a playoff game as a Bronco and, well, Peyton has not.
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    Tebow at least could win a playoff game... [​IMG]
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    I don't think so.

    I think what we saw tonight is a Denver team that for a variety of reasons was overrated quite a bit. That secondary, in particular, just isn't very good.
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    First of all;

    Suck it, Peyton.

    The only thing better than the Pats winning in the playoffs are either of the Mannings losing.

    But, ff you wanna get technical, Peyton did take them as far as Tebow did. And they didn't lose by 40 this year.

    If a fan of any team is willing to believe that Denver would have been better off keeping Tebow, they need to take a hard look in the mirror.
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    Ahh. Good point.

    Also, Peyton at least got them to OT.
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    "Tebow at least won a game in the post season to get there."

    Here's what's confusing. John Fox traded Tebow for Manning, and yet he doesn't trust Manning as much as Tebow. Why trade a young mobile QB for an aging QB who was injured for a year and will be retiring soon, instead of spending the money on improving the defense, if you don't even trust him?

    As the QB of the Broncos, Tebow was trusted to throw deep for a single pass play, leading to a win in OT.

    The next year, as QB of the Broncos, Manning went 0 for 4 (or so) possible attempts in the last 30 seconds to fight for a win, eventually losing in OT.

    Heck, in three other famous games, Brady moved the ball to field-goal range to break a late fourth quarter tie with just a few seconds on the clock each time. (Yes, earning his three Super Bowl rings.)

    Maybe John Fox thought that Denver would win the coin toss again? (Tebow did what Manning could not there, too.) :)
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    Joke thead hopefully. Tebow is not an NFL quarterback.
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    Champ Baily did not look like a champ. Maybe its time he hung up his cleats.
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    I gotta bump this thought. Bailey looked terrible on several plays where it looked like he was in good position to make the plays..... Time to call it career methinks.....
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    I do not know if I want to laugh harder at Peyton or Elway.
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    John fox = dungy part 2. Strange manning didnt go for SF and a bold coach and instead went to denver.
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    Just for fun...

    Broncos first playoff game

    Tebow (2012)
    316 yards (4 quarters + one pass)
    2 TDs / 0 INTs
    Won vs. 1st ranked defense in NFL

    Manning (2013)
    290 Yards (5 full quarters)
    3 TDs / 2 INTs
    Loss vs. 17th ranked defense in NFL
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    1) Tebow shouldn't be playing QB in the nfl next season.

    2) BALT was better than DEN. Champ Bailey was awful.
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    Haven't laughed harder at anything else ever. Lol it's ridiculous to think about it. The messageboards at ESPN are going bananas with the Tebow-ites and I'm dying laughing at it.
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    Tebow also had 50 yards rushing, 1 rushing touchdown, and 0 fumbles.
    Peyton had -1 rushing yards, 0 rushing touchdowns, and 1 lost fumble.
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    It has to do with expectations. The Broncos didn't seriously think they'd go far in the postseason. They just went balls to the wall, not worried.

    The prospect of a Superbowl got to the team, especially the playcaller. Now that they had something to lose, they played not to lose it.
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    I'm not going to say that Denver should have kept Tebow. I will say, though, that Tebow could easily have won as many playoff games as Manning did, and at a fraction of the cost.
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