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    i think if shawn crable stays healthy he will be are starting OLB and are leading sacker let me know what you guys think of him
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    i think he will be a third stringer until he proves otherwise what do you guys think?
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    i think you're crazy. :D

    I expect good things from him, and i think he will eventually be a major part of the D, but not the starter this year.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    In terms of talent, Crable has more talent than Woods and TBC. Crable had a pretty good preseason putting pressure on the QB and intercepting a pass in coverage. I expect him to get lots of playing time this season. Woods is going to get used to the sidelines once Crable gets the system under his belt.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    I think right now hes ellsbury and I hope he becomes Pedroia
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    No way, Crable will start from Game 1 and be our sack leader. he's just not ready for that role in this defense. I feel like BB is going to start Woods at OLB. I do think Crable might earn a greater role during the season.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Right now the job is Woods to lose, given his recent experience in the defense. Crable and TBC will compete, and both have a pretty decent chance of winning the job.

    A rookie is unlikely to start unless it is someone who already has experience as a linebacker like Cushing or Sintim.

    Jason Taylor or Julius Peppers (remember him) would change everything, of course.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    I think anybody not working for the team that thinks they have a bead on Crable's ability to step in now, is thinking too much.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Not to turn this into a draft thread, but with Crable, Woods, TBC and possibly Jason Taylor are the Pats needs at OLB as strong as some are predicting in regards to them possibly drafting an OLB on the 1st day. Can a Barwin, Sintim or Mathews be much of an upgrade over Crable, Woods or TBC?
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Connor Barwin will start, be the next DeMarcus Ware, sack the QB 5 times a game and be a force of biblical proportions

    Its true. I read it in the draft forum:p

    *Woods will start with JT and Crable/TBC will be backup*
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Barwin? Of whom do you speak?
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Crable showed some flashes of great promise in the pre-season games. Then, inexplicably, he barely played, and was even inactive for some games, until he got injured and was put on IR. Honestly, I don't know...
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Crables the next big willie.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    I think Crable was a victim of just not enough space on the 45 game day roster. Up until he got hurt, their was enough depth where he probably would not have seen enough playing time and BB could not afford to put him on the practive squad becasue he almost certainly would have been picked up by another team.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Given that he couldn't even get onto the sidelines last year (was not on the active roster) last year, let alone get on the field, and that BB put him on IR with a phantom shin injury, what do you know about him since then?

    I liked the guy, but he is basically a rookie of which we know absolutely nothing, so putting him ahead of establsihed players is nuts. I know people here don't like Woods, but BB plays him a lot, so BB likes him, and whose opinion counts when it comes to starting and/or playing someone, ours or BB's?

    Same with Maroney. Everyone talks about cutting him, while BB onlyh says good things about him. THere is a disconnect in Patriot Fannation. You can tell when BB doesn't like a guy. Look at the few things he said about Chad Jackson. Nothing complimentary. Neutral and never defended the guy. Not so with Maroney. We all judge Maroney based on what a first round pick should do. With BB, where a player was selected means nothing. It is production that counts. We seem to prefer 3.5 ypc if it comes from a UDFA over 4.3 ypc if it came from a first round pick.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    I agree.
    I watched The Crab a lot in summer camp as one of my favs. He has talent & promise but was raw and sorely needed to bulk up his Chris Canty stick legs. Clearly, he starts out 3rd string. From there he could rise or he could play himself off the 53 back onto the PS for a 2nd year. It's up to him and the talent he's competing against.

    Here's a clue. That's precisely what pre-season camp is all about.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    And sell beer and t-shirts while the pats are on offense. :D

    I think if he stays healthy he will see a lot of playing time, increasingly so as the season goes on.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    I do not get how can some assume he will be the 3rd stringer. Every 3 rd stringer is asked play special teams which he does not.

    The hate for woods is too much.He is the only all round OLB we have in our team after thomas and even his rookie year he broke through on special teams which crable never could before being IR`rd .

    Sadly we do not use pass rush only OLB in BB system they are expected to play a little coverage and little DE so no rookie is going to do this unless we are hit with a big list of injures.

    I see thomas/woods/TBC in their and people forget that in 3rd down we played guyton on the TE side as a coverage OLB with bru and mayo in.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Sounds pretty accurate to me. :D

    Seriously, I think that after Adalius Thomas Crable is the most talented OLB currently on our roster. I don't see him starting ahead of Woods day 1 based on experience, but I will be disappointed if he doesn't get significant reps and work himself into the starting lineup by the end of the year. BB always looks for players to take the biggest leap between years 1 and 2. If Crable is going to fulfill his promise I expect him to come into training camp bigger and stronger than last year, and that BB will give him every opportunity to play himself in a bigger role.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Since he has never played any meaningful minutes as an active player in a regular season game, how is anyone supposed to know?

    He's a second year player but he might as well be considered a rookie for all we know about how he will contribute.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    no......

    not this year, anyway
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    I beg to differ. Mr. BB has spoke glowingly about a player that he cuts or trades a week later upon many occasions. He does the best he can to keep up a positive impression about that player in case trades or picks can be involved. It's just Psyc. #101 with him. Case in point this year, Cassel. We all knew he had to go and BB talked in terms of a wonderful long term relationship with Matt after he signed his tender.

    You are absolutely right about BB playing the player that preforms or does his job foremost. Don't confuse stats with performance. Stats can be manipulative. They don't answer questions such as opponent, time of the game, conditions, personnel on the field and they only state an average, not the fact that a RB couldn't get a yard on a fourth and one but got a quick twenty when the OLB slipped when the game was out of hand or a missed block that caused a sack, perhaps a succession of tipped passes and muffs by a WR but a long gainer for thirty on his seventh try.

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    Good post.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Mayo, Nobody mentions Vince Redd. He is the wild card. He is 6'6" and 263. He ran a 4.54, 40. He has a 39" vertical. He came from a smaller school (Liberty) after playing for Groh at UV so he is versed in the 3-4. He actually has NFL game experience being in 5 games with 8 tackles and a PDef. He is only 23. I don't know if I would anoint Crable as the most talented. Crable is 6'5" and 243 with a 4.64 40. I think Redd is in the mix and very much under the radar. He played decent ST's last year if I recall.

    In his senior year Redd had 6.5 sacks, 12 quarterback hurries, two interceptions, six pass breakups during the first 10 games of the year.

    Am I missing the dissing here? I think Redd has a leg up on Crable.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Crable hasn't played a down in a Patriots' uniform (or even been activated for a game yet) and people think he will start? Sorry, Crable was a healthy scratch for the first eight games of the season last year and couldn't even get activated for special teams. I seriously doubt he will be a starter this year.

    I think if he has worked to develop his lower body more, he has a good chance of getting time as a situational pass rusher. But I don't expect much more out of him.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Quoting a football sage..."Don't confuse stats with performance. Stats can be manipulative. They don't answer questions such as opponent, time of the game, conditions, personnel on the field and they only state an average..."

    One more time. This is the Patriots. NONE of these wanna be starters has a leg up on anyone else. The off season strength and agility program results are unknown and the all important performance on the field in training camp where every player is evaluated on every single play by the coaches has yet to occur.

    BB doesn't attempt make these decisions now, why should we?
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    How do you really know Crable is the most talented OLB on the roster at AD? Based on college which means nothing? Crable just might not be adjusting to the pro level. Plenty of college superstars just don't adjust to the pro game. His lower body was a concern coming out of college and he may not have the lower body strength to push off of defenders at the pro level.

    I think people are setting this guy up to be another Ben Watson or Laurence Maroney. People are proping this guy up to be the next McGinest so much that if he is anything less, he is a huge bust. Watson was getting compared to Tony Gonzales or Shannon Sharpe in this town before he ran a single route. Maroney was dubbed the next LT after his first few games of his rookie season. I think both Watson and Maroney are victims of overly lofty expectations not met. Neither were great first round draft picks so far, but neither are the busts people make them out to be either.

    Personally, I think the guy may never be more than a situational pass rusher. If he didn't bulk up his lower body, I don't know if he will even be that. He does have a lot of potential, but we have seen nothing of this guy to expect anything out of him.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Third string? So you you have A. Thomas and Pierre Woods as starting OLB?
    The backups are Tully Banta Cain and Redd? Or a draft pick? Maybe. I feel as though Crable can beat out either Banta Cain or Redd and be a Second stringer not third.
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Correct. Agreed
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    Re: Shawn Crable a starter ?

    Right now it is TBC or Woods as a starting OLB. Whether one of the younger guys or a draft pick can steal that job remains to be seen. However, I thought Woods did not play well enough last year when he got his opportunity and who really knows where TBC stands in terms of being able to play everydown at the position.

    I think the door is open for Redd or Crable to start...but, there is a long way to go between nowand the first game of the season.
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