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  1. Harry Boy

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    Interesting position for the GOP to take.

    House GOP leaders: 9/11 first responders aid bill 'a massive new entitlement program' - On Congress - POLITICO.com
     
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    $7.4 Billion. That seems like a pizz load of money. What was this bill supposed to do?
     
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    Where did Harry go? :confused2:
     
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    I was out in the yard.
     
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    Looking for clams?
     
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    Provide healthcare to first responders to 9-11...

    EVERYONE should be on board, we just pushed through a bunch of war spending, and I didn't hear peopel asking what all that was for. Even after is was reported that we 'misplaced' 9 billion in Iraq...


    shame
     
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    How many first responders were there on 9/11? 7.4 billion seems like an exceedingly huge number. Not that we aren't wasting more than that daily on ridiculous things, but wow. Also, shouldn't these first responders already have really good health coverage?
     
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    damnnn....thats cold.

    Many of these people will be sick forever.

    From a 2006 article: 9/11 First Responders Gravely Ill - ABC News


    Many of them have been ill for years and will be for the rest of their lives.

    Dr. Robin Herbert, who runs the World Trade Center medical monitoring program, called the report's findings sobering at a news conference earlier this week.

    "Somebody has to take responsibility and make sure these folks get the care they need," he said.

    In the last few months, state and federal officials have announced that millions of dollars will go to the treatment of first responders.

    Many say it's still not enough.

    "It's a drop in the bucket, and my worry is that money will be gone in a year, and what happens then," Herbert said.

    Victims say they have little reason to trust what is being promised because the government's statements have not matched what the doctors have seen in their patients since the day of the attacks.

    On Sept. 28, 2001, 17 days after the attacks, New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said, "The air quality is safe and acceptable."
     
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    Bingo. Pathetic isn't it? I don't know why the number's so high though, 7.4billion DOES seem like a lot, not to nickel and dime those responders at all but considering this sounds like another of those famous "bills" we've all grown to know and love, I just wonder what else was in that bill to jack it up so high.

    If there's nothing else we've learned it's that stuff gets buried in bills, stuff that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Before we cry foul let's find out wth else is in that bill:cool: I know it sounds cynical but :bricks:

    Right after 9/11 the city denied any assistance to any first responder who wasn't from NYC, something about city funds or whatever-I forget. Responders came from all over the country to help, some weren't asked or invited, they just came for the good reasons.

    Responders were told the ground zero air quality was just fine when of course it wasn't, not even close.
     
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    7 Billion is a drop in the bucket compared to the Trillion borrowed for the Iraq war.
     
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    Our own citizens are complaining about taking care of american Heroes...people who didnt care about anything but finding fellow americans who could still be alive after the greatest american tragety of our lifetime. By doing so, they sacraficed their own health and future based on assurances that the air was good, and the area was safe.


    we are a bunch of azzholez, plain and simple.


    3.3 Trillion missing from nthe treasury : Estimate $3.3 Trillion Missing From U.S. Treasury
    2.3 missing from the Pentagon: Rumsfeld Sept 10, 2001: The Pentagon cannot account for $2.3 TRILLION | America Needs 435 Real Americans to run for Congress
    8.7 Billion missing from the Iraq funds : Pentagon can’t account for $8.7 billion in Iraqi funds | Raw Story


    Nobody is demanding these missing funds be investigated, nobody is blocking finances given to the defense department, the CIA, and the likes.


    But attempt to cover REAL american heroes with some healthcare? NO...


    Our nation disgusts me often. This is right up there.
     
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    I guess I should be more specific. I am all for making sure these guys don't have to pay a penny out of their own pocket, they shouldn't. I think the insurance providers should pay for it, as that is what they are for. I guarantee firefighters, police officers, etc... have health insurance that they are required to carry. Why should the insurance company get out of their responsibility?
     
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    Exactly. Obviously none of us have read this bill but what's the deal w/ the insurance companies? Have they refused to cover these people for whatever reason? It wouldn't surprise me at all, I just don't get why the GOP shot this down. Hopefully more info comes out about this.
     
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    Make the Oil Rich Muslims pay the 7 billion before they build their Mosque Shrine In NYC.

    It is true that the Good Muslims didn't slaughter 3000 humans on 9/11 but bad Muslims did.
     

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