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    WOW!! The Sports Hub must be kicking butt because they've got WEEI cutting their own throat.

    Dale and Holley show is out. Holley is going to the Big Show with Ordway and Lou Merloni and Mike Mutnansky are the new duo from 10 - 2. Lou Merloni and Mike Mutnansky??? WHAT????? HUH???????
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    I agree with the 98.5 kicking butt part, but why do you think WEEI is cutting their own throat ?
    Dale was so dull.
    This might help rejuvenate WEEI.
    Sounds like the midday show might have a heavy Sox bias, but what else is new.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Outside of Patriots Monday, Dale and Holley was the only WEEI show that I listened to. I guess it's the HUB for me.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    I think it's less about kicking butt than shoring up the Big Show. I think Felger and Mazz were eating into the ratings, although I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can listen to those two. Dale and Holley were still dominating the ratings race in that time slot. I don't think Gresh and Zo were even remotely close ratings wise, so maybe WEEI felt compelled to shift resources to the midday show. Not sure what the deal is with Dale, though. Other than Mutt and Lou probably cost less than Dale alone and with baseball season upon us and a lockout on the NCL horizen WEEI is shifting gears.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Merloni knows NOTHING about football, neither does that perpetual juvenile Mike Adams at night. I'm probably going to be tuning in 98.5 more than ever now, but I've already gravitated toward Zolak/Gresh anyway because they're football guys. The only time I drop in on 'EEI these days is during the Big Show to see if they're talking football. Both stations suck before 10 a.m. I wonder what Dale Arnold is going to do now.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    The absolute one show i would listen to weekly was D and H with Peter King Fridays @noon. Always good stuff.
    Call me old school but i never cared for screaming confrontational sports radio. Information and educated opinion is what always draws me. I guess thats why when i drive home at night from work and away from the city, i have, and will continue to listen to FAN
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Arnold paired with Felger would be interesting (who in God's name would miss Mazz the pipsqueak?). To quote Kenny Mayne years ago when commenting upon a John Wasdin/Coors Field match-up: "Like driving a gasoline truck into a bon-fire."
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    I have to assume that there's something behind the scenes here, because this move makes no sense to me right now.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Wow, surprised at this even though I switched completely to 98.5 a long time ago. I thought Dale & Holley was the one good thing EEI had going for it. Holley and Glen Ordway? Yikes. That sounds worse than Felger & Mazz when they started. Mazz has grown on me, though, and I always liked Felger (yes, I know I am in the minority).
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Couple theories:

    One of them is that Dale may have been ready for retirement, and that this shake up was to accommodate one of WEEI's longest tenured guys. This is pretty much a semi retirement for Dale, as he'll be on fill in duty (a couple weeks here and there in summer, maybe around the holidays for a bit).

    Another is that Holley was strongly considering jumping ship to 98.5. It's been a common feeling for a while that TSH was trying to poach Holley, first for the midday show, but perhaps for the afternoon drive (either a 3 man booth between Felger-Mazz-Holley) or replacing Mazz outright with Holley.

    Personally, I'm going to take the easy way out and say it's a little bit of both. If Dale wasn't ready to ride off into the sunset, I don't think he would have agreed to some part time fill in duty.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Merloni deserves promotion. Mutnansky will be good and his voice is almost a dead ringer for ESPN's Colin Cowherd.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Why? He's a one-trick pony (baseball). The only one worse on that station is Adams, who only knows baseball but from the 1960s.

    As another poster suggested it would be great to see Mazzerpipsqueak replaced by anyone -- including Dale Arnold. Can't get used to that guy's voice.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    bring back pete!!!!!!
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Well, yeah. The guys in the money spots on 98.5 are actually talented and unlike their counterparts have more synaptic connections than thumbs. The 98.5 midday guys aren't the most talented, but both really know football well. Gresh knows how to play an audience and Zo is...well...that dude who went stage diving at an Everclear show. It's really no surprise 98.5 is mopping the floor with EEI, especially considering they focus on the two cool sports in town.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Dale was so dull?? Have you heard Lou Merloni??
    Mike Mutnansky???? What??? :rolleyes:
    Holley and Ordway are not going to gel as a show.
    Ordway talks over, above and around everyone on that show and Holley is disagreeable just for the sake of being disagreeable over the most minute opinion. If you tell Mike Holley the sky is blue he'll come back with "I don't know about that. I've seen it more blue than that. Yesterday I saw a sky that was much bluer than today". Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........
    Tell you right now neither one of these shows have line-ups that I want to listen to.
    Hellooooo Sports Hub.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Merloni is a one-trick pony? That's one more trick than Felger, Mazz and Gresch combined.


    98.5 is, perhaps, the worst sports radio station on the east coast. It has one show worth listening to, and that show doesn't start until 6 pm.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Love to listen to Holley and hate listening to the blowhard Ordway. So I'm hoping that this is a prelude to the Michael Holley show in the 2-6 slot. I think Merloni has lots of untapped talent but he needs a football co-host. Troy Brown is a bit dry ... Mutnansky sucks.

    No more Fred .... :D

    No more Deossie ... :D:D

    No more Max ... :mad::mad::mad:

    Bottom line here ... looking at it financially is that no way Ordway and Holley can co-exist. Hopefully that means Ordway is on his way out also. :D:D:D:D
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Agreed x a bazillion. What's a shame is Dale Arnold is a knowlegable and fair minded host and proved you don't need to be a whiney dikhead to have a decent show. Shame the dikheads won out.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Not surprising they would break up the Big Show format. It is tired and shown it's vunerability against real competition. Hopefully, Holley will have an actual real voice and not just be Ordway's sounding board. Holley needs to take control of the show and be at least on equal footing with Ordway. He can't be another Pete who is there to stroke Ordway's ego and be the butt of everyone's jokes. Holley if used right could make that show listenable again and hopefully he will oust Ordway in a year or two.

    Surprised with their midday selection though. Well, not really with WEEI's bias towards the Sox. With the increasing popularity of the Pats and the seeming cooing towards the Red Sox, WEEI could be conceeding 10-2 for the months of August through February unless the Sox make a real World Series push.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    This entire post made me LOL! So much hate Icy.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Personally, I think they are getting read to groom Holley to take over the afternoon drive. Ordway is expensive, takes long vacation breaks in the summer, and is not the ratings powerhouse he once was. Ordway has also had several run ins with management over the years.

    I think Ordway is facing a potential Eddie Andelman moment where his style of talk radio has become a dinosaur and his cost not worth his value to the company. This seems eerily like when WEEI paired Andelman up with Dale Arnold to shake things up after Andelman solo act started to slip in the rating. That ended horribly and based on Ordway's past run ins with the station, this could end just as bad.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    I sort of like Holley, but I don't see him being quick and edgy enough to carry his own show. He's more of a reactive type that an "initiator," for lack of a better word. The thing about Ordway is he seems to have pretty deep knowledge about all the teams and sports, and does a good job of steering the conversations as a host should. By the way, I strongly disagree with Icy wanting to see Fred and DeOssie gone -- I love both those guys. Fred makes me laugh and they're both great on football. If I can catch them whenever they're on, that's where I stay.
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    When Fred started he was great ... he had lots to offer. DeOssie was okay but Fred was the real deal. He's fallen way off since then for whatever reason. DeOssie could offer some knowledge but now all he does is looks for spots where he can showcase his lack of talent. The guy wants his own show and it's obvious and it hurts him as a co-host. He must have known moves were going to be made and he made himself look like a fool leveraging to get the spot.

    But hey ... too each his own ... talk radio is kind of like that.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    From someone who only occasionally listens to either station:

    Merloni bores the life out of me.

    Mazz may very well be the most annoying, least informed, least likable person on the face of the earth on top of having a voice that ranges between nails in a chalkboard and Micky Mouse on helium. Maybe one of these days that miserable little bastard will reach puberty.

    Was never a fan of Ned Flanders, a pile of wood is more entertaining.

    Like Holley.

    Was never a fan of the Big Fat O and the never ending Red Sox talk, the only thing more painful is listening to an angry Cedric Maxwell butcher the English language.

    Smerlas is amusing, DeOssie is an idiot.

    Felger thrives on being the Ahole and he is good at it however they need to mix it up a little. Listening to Felger and his parrot you would think the Pats where 2-14 not 14-2. You simply can't be negative all the time on every subject and still be entertaining. That being said, I would still rather listen to Felger over the Big Fat O any day. I've heard more football talk in one year on 98.5 than I did in 10 years on EEI.

    Zolak and Gresh may have a combined IQ of 64 but at least the talk football.

    I have no idea who Mike Mutnansky is.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    WEEI is on life support... if/when 98.5 lands Holley... that's the nail in the coffin...


    The ONLY two bad apples on WEEI are Mazz and Gresh.

    Replace Gresh with Holley and Mazz with _???____ and WEEI is as good as dead.


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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    merloni and mutt??? are you kidding me. thats a show i will never listen to and ive been a loyal weei guy. that is some really boring ass sh!t those two. eei needs a fm station in boston. 850 am is killing them. 103.7 isnt enough.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    This move was all about the loss of ad revenues to TSH.

    Arnold is only 54. Retirement comes young these days.

    Gotta think that Holley is being groomed for the big chair. However, Ordway has 3 years left on his deal @ $1m per. Maybe EEI has an out-clause? Not pulling in guests may save the station some money.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    what the ..... ? eei is screwing this thing up bad. dale and holley were fine. the big show was meh, but zo/gresh and felger/mazz are unlistenable. damon amendolara is aight and mike adams is a joke. this new combo big show/holley show sucks and merloni/muttman is atrocious. dale arnold wasn't bad enough to screw everything up like this. maybe if you want to switch things up you could move holley to the big show and do a dale/muttman experiment. this is just stupid. i guess i'm going to be doing a little experimenting of my own. i do know this much. i will never, ever be able to listen to felger/mazz for more than 5 nanoseconds.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Only if someone took the test for them. I'm shocked they can find the station every day. Almost hard to comprehend that Zolak was a qb.
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    Re: OT: Shake-up at WEEI D & H out

    Pretty much my assessment also, did not like Toucher and Rich at first, but they grew on me.. liked Dale and Holley a bunch, think that Gresch and Zo are idiots... initially like Ordway, but after a while all they did was yell over each other and talked too much.. cannot stand Felger, Mazz, Callahan or Dennis all of whom are absolutely egomaniacal idiots..

    Do not see this as beneficial to EEI at all... like Merloni, but not sure of his Football knowledge..
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