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  1. AndyJohnson

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    Other than kill his team with penalties.
    I have to watch the tape to see who was blocking him most of the time. Looked like he was on Connolly quite a bit. But we blocked him all day, he wasn't even a factor.
    Solder was a better player than Seymour today.
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    He helped us more than hurt us. If not for that first PF, we likely go 3 and out, give Raiders the ball in good field position and it could have been a whole different start to the game. 10-0 on the road and a rattled Brady would have been asking for trouble.
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    You could tell he was all hyped up, good thing he didnt channel all that energy in a good way.
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    Thank god, I was getting tired of the constant *****ing about the Seymour trade.
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    He's still on pace for 10 sacks this season. That's something. He has had 0.5 sacks in the last three games, but it still pace for 10 sacks. :rolleyes:
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    He actually got quite a bit of penetration. We lucked out big time with the penalties and there was one play where Brady just got the hand off away before Seymour took him down.

    Really, Brady's best drive was on a series where Sey sat out. Not a coincidence IMO.

    EDIT: The above has nothing to do with the trade. I just thought he got penetration.
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    he was imitating the Pats defense from last week.
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    He was offsides on the play you are talking about.
    If he got penetration it wasn't near the football, so that isn't really doing anything special, I could get in the backfield going in the direction they want to block me.
    He was not a factor at all, except for the penalties.
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    The Pats had 4 long TD drives, how is it coincidence that Seymour was off the field for part of one of them?
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    Thank You, Richard Seymour. His bone headed play on Brady jump started the Patriots Offensive Juggernaut (as described at a raiders site).

    My gut feeling about the Brady take down is that Seymour channeled all his anger at the Patriots organization in that play and it was his INTENTION to take Brady out. Brady was saved when Seymour became aware of the blatancy of his actions and took some of the force off that hit.
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    If you want to bash him for the penalties, fine.

    But please don't tell me that getting penetration means nothing if it just so happens the team is fortunate enough to have a run called in the other direction (or that you could do it). That's nonsense. He's a DT. He's not an weakside DE on a zone read where he'll get a free rush. If he knifes through the line, it means he beat our guard and/or center - not because they just sort of let him through. That's ridiculous.
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    Brady had ample time on the 2nd TD drive. The one that Sey was out for. He didn't get that type of time for the rest of the game.
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    He did nothing this game although he did have some "almost" Andre Carter sacks.

    At any rate I love the guy and wish him luck and good fortune against every team but the Patriots. After all he will be in the Patriots Hall Of Fame one day.
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    Seymour was wreckless... Helluva a player in his SB years, but he was always hotheaded and took frequent STUPID penalties.


    Nate Solder say's HI "trade haters"
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    Another one of those pesky words that doesn't mean what you think it means
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    well, i'm pretty sure i know what help means and seymour helped us more today than he did the raiders. though, that facemask on green ellis was brutal.
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    i really cant remember anyone outher then Ty Law haveing a Good Game vs the pats after leaving
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    Hmm...Curtis Martin....:(
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    No Jersey Selected

    If he was wreckless, his premiums wouldn't be so darned high..... :D
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    wow i forget is was even a patriot lol good call
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    But under BB, only Lawyer and Ty Law had good to great games against us. So yeah..you're kinda right lol.
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    I recall him being wreckful when he was here.
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    I know he was a good player here, but I guess i never thought of him as a HOF player, or even a Pats HOF player. His stats are ok, but he did play in a 3-4 so you could say his #s were great for a 3-4 end. I dont think he'll be in anytime soon (after retirement) though. There's alot of players I would put in before him.
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    I think you have an idea and are trying to pretend reality fits it.
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    I am not 'bashing' him I am discussing what he did.
    He made almost no plays. To say 'he got penetration' is to try to put a positive spin that isnt quantifiable on a poor perfermance.
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    What I could never figure out was when the Pats lost with Seymour on the team, many on the board would complain about how he had a bad game, but once he got traded it was like "Oh no, no Seymour, we are doomed"...:rolleyes:
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    Loved that 1st quarter. Dick was like a rooster on speed.
    Highly unusual for Dick to be that motivated without a $$contract$$ on the line. ;)
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    I would love to hear what Brady was saying as he was getting up afterwards. Clearly pissed off
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    I think Seymour psyched himself out with the big penalties on the first drive and never really got his rhythm back the rest of the game. Tossing Brady to the ground after the play had obviously been blown dead for several seconds was over the top and then he overcompensated by blatantly grabbing that face mask in the pile a few plays later. I only saw him close to the point of attack once or twice after that, on one of which he was Offside, as someone else observed.

    Even the idiot announcers (who spent most of the first half praising Jason Campbell as though he were a candidate for Canton for "shredding" the Patriots defense) recognized that Richard was playing with too much emotion at the beginning.
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    In a manner of speaking letting his emotions ultimately get in the way was Richard's undoing here. There were certain slights and perceptions and concerns he could never seem to let go of or get past - on or off the field.
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