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  1. reflexblue

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    #91 Jersey

    Why.......? G.O.P. = Grand Obstructionist Party

    Senate Republicans block campaign ad disclosure bill - Yahoo! News

    ASHINGTON — Senate Republicans beat back Democratic attempts Tuesday to pass a bill that would impose stringent disclosure requirements on corporations, unions and other independent groups that finance ads for political campaigns.

    Ignoring pleas for passage from President Barack Obama , not a single Republican voted for a motion to limit debate and proceed toward final passage of the so-called DISCLOSE Act. Without Republican support, the debate-limit motion failed 57-41, falling short of the 60 votes required under Senate rules to shut off debate.
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    At this point, the "41 seat majority" in the Senate would block the extension of the Bush Tax cuts, just to be diks.

    We should put the republicans in Goal for team USA, those dudes block EVERYTHING.



    .... "Shutout Senate" (Trademark Holy Diver 2010)
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    #91 Jersey

    :rofl::eat2:
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    The party of NO strikes again..
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    #91 Jersey

    I know i put up a picture of a nascar drive and said a similar thing when the ruling saying that corporations had free speech the same as individuals.

    The only reason i can think of is that all though this bill includes unions the Greedy Obstructionist Party knows unions can't match the amount of money that corporations can when it comes to spending.
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    If the Democrats wouldn't put up trash to be voted on, then the Republicans might join them.
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    Why is this proposal "trash"?
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    This doesn't deserve a serious response
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    Yes, let's hear khayos articulate exactly why this bill is trash.
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    From the article:
    Interesting group of opposers and reasons. This was also linked in the article:
    House approves campaign disclosure bill nobody likes | McClatchy
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    #91 Jersey

    Some may not like ALL of it, thats the way it is ALL the time. But 57 senators still voted for it.


    "Republicans argued that the bill is unconstitutional because it would impose a restriction on free speech guaranteed by the First Amendment." How?
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    I think that's why
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    If I were a republican, I wouldn't vote for it either. If the tables were turned, and I were a democrat, I would do the same. This bill is designed to repudiate the SCOTUS' 5-4 decision from a few months ago, and is an attempt to limit the resources available to their (Dems) opponents come November. Why would the GOP want to take ammo out of it's own gun, when it's on it's way to a shootout? I'm not saying the bill sucks, or it's intentions are ill advised. I'm supportive of measures to curb campaign influence, and/or have a more transparent system. I just think it's propostrous to expect the people who are looking to dethrown you, to help you neuter them just prior to an election. If this bill were presented in December of this year, I bet it would be worked on without issue, or atleast would be met with more common ground. To expect the GOP to sign on here, is unrealistic.

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    And why would voters want them neutered? The ads give opposing candidates frequent, short opportunities to "debate", one ad often brings a reaction ad from the opponent's camp. Granted some ads cross the line but I think the people themselves speak up well enough about those kinds of things without legal assistance.

    There's so much buried in these bills that's important and has implications beyond the headliner.
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    Get ready for the most fukced up election cycle to date.

    We the people have pretty much lost everything that the founders envisioned when they created the constitution. The Unlimited contributions from corporations to political campaigns is about as selfish, and fukced up as it gets, then to not even disclose where the $$ is coming from is just a b!tchslap to the american public.

    The BS reasoning behind the congressional memners who voted against this is just plain evil. "It will block contributions?" GO PI$$ UP A ROPE... A-HOLES!!!



    This actually might make me leave the country.....enjoy the United Sates of Exxon/Mobil Wal-Mart.


    I'm headed to Vancouver.
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    Because it restricts political speech and has exceptions for favored political groups. The government shouldn't get to decide who is allow to have political speech.
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    How is anybody's speech restricted?

    But I agree that different groups shouldn't be treated differently.
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    If you are prevented for speaking, expressing an opinion say through an ad, your free speech is being infringed IMO. Then when congress gives favored treatment to special groups to buy support we approach tyranny.

    This act is evil IMO. Government doesn't get to decide who can and cannot express their opinions.
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    #91 Jersey

    How does putting your name on donations prevent free speech? The government isn't deciding who can express their opinions. The government wants the public to know who is paying for what. I would want to know who BP is backing for example. If they pay for an add i what to know.

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