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Senate blocks census US-citizenship question

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  1. Real World

    Real World Moderator Staff Member

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    WTF is the harm in asking? The extent to which politicians will go to secure future votes is upsetting to me.



    Senate blocks census US-citizenship question

    Press Writer Andrew Taylor, Associated Press Writer – Thu Nov 5, 12:52 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – Senate Democrats have blocked a GOP attempt to require next year's census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.

    The proposal by Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter was aimed at excluding immigrants from the population totals that are used to figure the number of congressional representatives for each state. Critics said Vitter's plan would discourage immigrants from responding to the census and would be hugely expensive. They also said that it's long been settled law that the apportionment of congressional seats is determined by the number of people living in each state, regardless of whether they are citizens. A separate survey already collects the data.

    The plan fell after a 60-39 procedural vote made it ineligible for attachment to a bill funding the census.


    Senate blocks census US-citizenship question - Yahoo! News
  2. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

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    Maybe because they can't possibly get an accurate census if they ask that question....
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    The Constitutional argument's got legitimacy. The word 'persons' is what's used not 'citizens.'

    Besides, Republicans should be careful about mucking with what is actually said at all. You won't find a census expert who thinks an actual count is more accurate than statistical sampling. Its also clear that sampling will strongly favor the Democrats, but the Constitution says we must actually count everyone, not sample them.

    Seems to me this guy is putting an opener to a can of worms he really doesn't want opened.
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    I think it's wrong that we count illegals toward congressional seats, as opposed to only citizens, and legal resident aliens.
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    #24 Jersey

    It's kind of a moot question, isn't it?

    Who, in their right mind, would honestly answer a question which would most certainly implicate them in something illegal?

    Aren't we supposed to be advise people of their rights before we ask them to do that?
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    #75 Jersey

    Why don't we save a few billion dollars and just use the info from the IRS as the census, hell why don't we use the same info for the voter registration, add 2 lines to the 1040. poof, your done!
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    Well citizens do that when they fill out their 1040, should we not be asked to fill out our tax forms?

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