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    Most cheating from the left, wonder how much goes unnoticed nationally as elections are corrupted by the left:

    Texas SEIU Member Registers 23,207 Fraudulent Voters &laquo Publius Forum

    Wonder how much play this will get from the MSM?

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    It's simply unacceptable. Anyone who tries to committ any form of voter fraud, should be locked up behind bars for a long time, and made an example of. Voting is what makes this country what it is. It should be protected to the hardest, and highest standing of the law.
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    People should have to show a picture ID to vote.
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    From one biased news source to another:

    Right Wing Foments Voter Fraud Conspiracies, Hatches ‘Voter Caging’ Plot To Suppress Minority Votes In WI

    Documents and audio recordings released yesterday by One Wisconsin Now document an apparent plot by the Wisconsin Republican Party, Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity (aka Fight Back Wisconsin), and various other tea party groups to suppress votes from minorities and students in this year’s elections using a well-documented — and illegal— practice known as “voter caging.” The alleged plot offers fresh evidence that long-discredited right-wing conspiracy theories about massive voter fraud supposedly perpetrated by minorities and others remain alive and well in both the official GOP establishment and its tea party base.

    “Voter caging” is a means of voter suppression and intimidation that involves sending mail to a list of voters, compiling a list of mail pieces returned as undeliverable, and then challenging those voters at the polls or otherwise attempting to remove them from the voter rolls. The mere process of challenging voters can intimidate from voting even if they are eligible, cause long lines to form at polling places that will then discourage others from voting, and may result in eligible voters casting provisional ballots which stand a high likelihood of not being counted in the final tally.

    Think Progress Right Wing Foments Voter Fraud Conspiracies, Hatches ?Voter Caging? Plot To Suppress Minority Votes In WI
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    And they do in many states.

    I'm surprised to find you on this side of the aisle, 13. It's all about States Rights vs BIG GOVERNMENT. You're usually against the Feds making regulations which then apply to all the states and all in favor of the states being able to pass individual state laws which work best for them.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/28/voter.identification/index.html
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    I think this is one of those greyish questions that kind of twists the lines between the constitution, states rights, and the fed. Some critics claim that requiring ID is unconstitutional, because it places an "undue burden" on voters. In Indiana that was the case I think. Where it's grey is that voters elect candidates in national elections. So while Indiana may not want ID's in their elections, does that mean they can not require them for federal elections as well? It's an interesting discussion IMO. I personally like the idea of showing ID, cuz it means voters are who we thought they were. :)
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    Thread going according to the usual pattern.

    Discovery - attempted discussion - deflection - race card.
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    It's the problem when the initial link gives away its bias with the term "union thugs," and in fact there are only three principle possibilities:

    - Houston Votes engaged in rampant fraud
    - Republicans are engaging in discrimination
    - Some combination of the above.

    Given that, the pattern of this thread makes sense, but if you consider my post as playing the race card, you are simply saying we should ignore that possibility even though it's part of the story. Why should we do that? Do you think the idea that Texas Republicans are engaged in discrimination is an impossibility?
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    Well the republicans didn't turn in > 23,000 fraudulent voter registration cards.
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    Yup, and it's a pattern that's always followed by the usual people.
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    Just some innocent, minor mistakes that anyone could make.

    "...and 1,597 registrations that named the same person multiple times, often with different signatures."
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    That of course is the Republican perspective. I strongly suspect that the number of fraudulent cards is nowhere near 23,000.
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    Yeah multiple names registered to a vacant lot, it must be recism, ;)
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    From the HOUSTON CHRONICLE

    Vasquez, group hurl voter registration accusations | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

    You were saying................
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    At first glance this appears to be wrongdoing, but there is usually more to any story..

    The reliance on blogs has to be considered closely, even Fox News did not come up with the same conclusions...

    Need to clarify that this is not a union sponsored activity, the guy also works... so now we are going to qualify any activity of a person by their affiliation... think of the possibility.. the danger here is for the right to assume that this has something to do with unions, while in reality there is no link as of this time...

    Instead of Sarah Palin we can now say Part Time News Reporter says...
    Instead of Christine O'Donnell was can now say the marketing and media consultant candidate from Delaware says...


    FOXNews.com - Citizens' Group Helps Uncover Alleged Rampant Voter Fraud in Houston

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    Whenever there is an election in Chicago "Dead Democrats" rise from their graves going from one polling place to another to cast their Magical Ungodly Ballots.

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    Frankly, there are many in Texas who fear that the fact that Texas will be dominated by people of Hispanic descent before long. It's quite possible that those people are trying to suppress the minority vote.

    As the article points out, there's another possibility besides registration fraud:

    Texans Together President Fred Lewis accused Vasquez of trying to suppress voter registration.

    He said that when Vasquez brought irregularities to his attention, he fired employees and put in more controls. Lewis explained that duplicates often happen when people are not sure whether they are registered or cannot remember if they have registered since they last moved.

    Lewis said he had continued to try to cooperate with Vasquez, but that the tax collector, who serves as the county's voter registrar, had not returned his calls in the past week....

    "He is a disgrace," Lewis said of Vasquez. "We need to have the Justice Department come in and see what Mickey Mouse stuff he and his office are doing to suppress people."
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    Funny Vasquez sounds Hispanic is he a racist against Hispanics?
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    Dunno. What we do know is that he's a dude who lost a primary and has an axe to grind. We also know his predecessor was charged with illegally rejecting legitimate voter applications and that the suit ended in a settlement.
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    Are you in favor of voter fraud?

    Should people be skeptical of 40 registrations to a empty lot?

    Should people be skeptical of thousands of applications with the same signature?
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    You do not know that, one thing we all know is that politics have become an extremely dirty game... otoh who builds the machines???

    This is about power.. and some folks will not stop at anything to attain it. The real power is not who casts the votes, but who counts them..

    The computer-based voting machine NH uses to count up to 85% of our votes is the SAME Diebold AccuVote model that recorded minus 16,022 votes for Al Gore in Florida in 2000?


    Black Box Voting - America's Elections Watchdog Group
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    If you have an example where fraudulent registrations are being filed in the tens of thousands feel free to bring it to our attention.
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    So voter fraud is not serious until it hits a certain mark:confused::confused::confused:..

    the right has specific standards as to what is newsworthy and what comments can be allowed.. reminds me of not allowing signs to the recent Glenn Beck lalapolooza... no one complained, just more sheep complaining about how their "rights" are being infrindged upon.

    sorry for responding to your disengenuous thread, but guess what.. will probably do it again.

    Once, again they can register 1000's of people, but 1000's will not vote.. the reality is that the person who counts the votes has the power... it is naive to believe anything less.
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    You provided no link to any voter fraud, you talked about a broken machine without a link?
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    No, he didn't. He provided a link. Perhaps you just didn't read it.

    DID YOU KNOW the computer-based voting machine NH uses to count up to 85% of our votes is the SAME Diebold AccuVote model that recorded minus 16,022 votes for Al Gore in Florida in 2000?

    Black Box Voting - America's Elections Watchdog Group
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