Welcome to PatsFans.com

Seattle scouting?

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by SVN, Dec 1, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. SVN

    SVN Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2005
    Messages:
    22,550
    Likes Received:
    26
    Ratings:
    +44 / 0 / -0

    Okay . best way to forget this bad game is to think about the next. We need to win the westcoast trip starting with seattle . Anyone have a scouting on how the seahawks are other than 2-10 ? i havent followed them all season. From what i know hasselback is a decent QB and the west coast offense means lot of passing . Branch will be up for this one and he is good at moving the middle of the field. What is the seahawks weakenes which pats can/will exploit and be the proverbial gameplan ?
    • Like Like x 1
  2. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    26,674
    Likes Received:
    390
    Ratings:
    +1,032 / 25 / -46

    No Jersey Selected

    No running game, bad offensive line (Hutchinson is the only bright spot but even he is fading), and mediocre defense. Hasselbeck pretty much has to carry the team on his back which he's having trouble with since Julius Jones has not panned out.

    However, if we still can't apply pressure to the QB, we may even find ourselves getting toasted by Hasselbeck next week... as unlikely as that sounds.
    • Like Like x 1
  3. DisgruntledTunaFan

    DisgruntledTunaFan Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    2,534
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    From what I've read, Hasselbeck's back still isn't healthy. He SHOULD be put on IR, but I guess with Holmgren being in his last year there, Matt is doing his best to please his boss, I dunno.

    With that being said, you guys should win by double digits, easy. This team is HORRIBLE. Not just the injuries, but their defense absolutely stinks.
  4. Thirdbasekid24

    Thirdbasekid24 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2007
    Messages:
    462
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0


    Hutchinson plays in Minnesota but other then that you're pretty spot on.
  5. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    26,674
    Likes Received:
    390
    Ratings:
    +1,032 / 25 / -46

    No Jersey Selected

    Whoops! I was talking about Mike Wahle whom I believe replaced him and whom I used to be pretty impressed with. I think he's in his 9th or 10th season now. Used to be a pretty good guard.
  6. DisgruntledTunaFan

    DisgruntledTunaFan Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2006
    Messages:
    2,534
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    He and Marco Rivera played for the Packers for years with Holmgren/Sherman/Favre. Both were beasts and were largely the reason why Ahman Green became one of the best RBs.

    The minute they went to other teams, they all of a sudden became injury-prone. Rivera injured his back lifting weights in the offseason after he signed with Dallas, and was ineffective throughout his 2 years there, and when Wahle went to Carolina, he was lucky to play 1/2 of the snaps.
  7. PJM

    PJM Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2008
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Wahle missed the Cowboys game but they hope he'll be back for the Pats.

    The Seattle Times (Seahawks Blog | The Seattle Times) seem to rate Walter Jones highly at RT but seem very perturbed by Hasselbeck's struggles. The Seahawks' offense looks like the kind of limited outfit that BB loves to tie up in knots with different looks etc.

    The Seahawk's overall team stats are horrible (Seattle Seahawks Stats). There just doesn't seem to be anything they do well; might be a good day for fantasy owners to start Cassel and Moss. They won against the Rams with a good running performance and against the 49ers with Seneca Wallace doing well at QB.
  8. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,439
    Likes Received:
    116
    Ratings:
    +209 / 4 / -5

    I remember someone saying, "don't start Cassel against the Steelers--but start him the rest of the way."
  9. AStack75

    AStack75 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,089
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    If Branch isn't hurt. He has been a huge disappointment for Seattle. Seattle's weakness is their passing defense. A couple weeks ago, they were the 31st ranked passing defense.
  10. The 12th Man

    The 12th Man Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2007
    Messages:
    461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    I live a couple hours from Seattle and will be at the game rooting for our Pats on Sunday! As for the Seachickens scouting report, I'll tell you this much:

    1) They have had as bad a year injury wise as we did this year (Maybe not in quality but at least in quantity). They played with WRs signed off the street a few weeks back. For this game they're two best O-linemen are hurt and Wahle has been pretty much ruled out with Walter Jones (LT and former Pro Bowler) will probably play but not at 100%. Their defense is beat up too with Tatupu and Leroy Hill (2 pretty good LBs) having some nagging injuries as well. Branch should be fine for this game and probably have a decent game. Hasslesack is still nursing his back injury and hasn't been 100% most of the season. Their best D-linemen is out for the year too(Patrick Kerney).

    2) Guys to watch:

    CB Marcus Trufant - great shutdown corner, but has been known to have a bad game once in a while. Look for a good match up with him on Randy.

    TE John Carlson - Charlie Weis product is having a great rookie year and has been one of the few bright spots for the Seahawks in the passing game.

    LB Julian Peterson - great pass rusher. Our O-line better step up and protect Cassel.

    3) If the Pats don't turn the ball over more than twice, it should be an easy win for us. Can't wait to see them live! I'll be wearing my Bruschi jersey for this one and my wife will sport her Mike Vrabel jersey. It will be awesome!(Pats don't come to this side of the country very often)
  11. jbb9s

    jbb9s Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2006
    Messages:
    2,160
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    Seattle's strength is probably when Cassel throws to Watson. It creates the best opportunity for them to pick easy tipped balls off Watson's hands plus the fumble recoveries tend to be numerous.
  12. seahawkspatriotschick

    seahawkspatriotschick Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2005
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    You hit that right on!!!!:)

    Due to the past and present injuries....Branch and Engram have played in 2 games now coming off the injured list about 2xs this season!! Kerney has been out, and Lofa just came back in!!! Hasselbeck is playing poorly and Wallace just plain "SUCKS!!! WOW, We need a QB and put Seneca back to being our WR!!!!! --All I can say is our best Offensive Coaches left for Redskins along with Zorn!!!! It made a drastic impact on this team!!! Now that Holmgren is leaving and Mora is taking over----Good Luck!!!
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2008
  13. shirtsleeve

    shirtsleeve Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2005
    Messages:
    2,730
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Is that Mora of "Playoffs!?! Youre talkin Playoffs!?!" fame?

    No injuries!
  14. AStack75

    AStack75 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,089
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    It's his son.
  15. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,439
    Likes Received:
    116
    Ratings:
    +209 / 4 / -5

    Is that a done deal?

    And, come to think of it, do you think there's any chance our Matt might end up taking over for their Matt? :)
  16. richpats

    richpats Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2005
    Messages:
    3,499
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    I'm not overlooking a game at Qwest Field (the loudest in football) against a seasoned QB like Hasselbeck. We will be challenged. I think we can win, but remember that Seattle has played a couple of 7-5 teams (AZ, Wash) very close at home w/ Hasselbeck back in the lineup.
  17. The 12th Man

    The 12th Man Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2007
    Messages:
    461
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    It is a done deal. Mora Jr. is going to take over Holmgren's job next year. And about Cassel joining the Hawks, I was just joking about that at work a couple weeks ago. I was telling some of my coworkers (Seahawks fans) that they will overpay Cassel like they did Branch and Alexander and be screwed again for the next 3 years at least.
  18. SVN

    SVN Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2005
    Messages:
    22,550
    Likes Received:
    26
    Ratings:
    +44 / 0 / -0

    any team that can throw the ball decently will be hard on our secondary. We better tackle better than the previous games. i feel it will be a close contest like the SF game.
  19. ausbacker

    ausbacker Brady > Manning. PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2008
    Messages:
    13,205
    Likes Received:
    118
    Ratings:
    +280 / 4 / -2

    #51 Jersey

    Some quick stats

    Hasselbeck is completing 52% of his passes for 5 TD's and 10 INT with a rating of 57.8.

    Julius Jones is rushing for 4.4 yards a carry with 2 TD's. Over the last 3 week's he's been less than stellar. Poor to limited rushing game.

    Defensively teams are putting up 26 points, and 387 yards (of which 122 rushing) a game on Seattle and they have sacked the QB 26 times.

    Providing the Pats dont commit sloppy turnovers we should win, and win easily.
  20. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,417
    Likes Received:
    145
    Ratings:
    +299 / 9 / -9

    #24 Jersey

    Seattle is awful. You think our pass defense is bad ? Seattle's passer rating against is second worst in the league only beating out Detroit. They're also 3rd worst in yards per attempt against the pass. I don't care how loud their crowd is, we had better win this one going away is we're going to say the "P" word.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>