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  1. carolinatony

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    I hope Denver wins. They won't beat out S.D. so we won't have to play them @ Denver in the playoffs.
    The more the Seahawks lose the better their pick will be next year.
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    I should know this but if Seattle wins their division which is almost a certainty, how is their pick determined if they don't win the NFC Championship game? Order of regular season finish???

    edit: The answer determines my rooting interest
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    I believe so but someone else on board should have that answer
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    Denver all the way! I want a good first round pick from Seattle.
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    If Seattle wins the division the earliest they will pick will be after all the non playoff teams, that's #21.

    Assuming they don't go to the SB they are then slotted according to regular season record. So if they had the worst record of the playoff teams, and didn't go to the SB, we would pick #21. We can't pick higher assuming they win the division.
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    I'm rooting for Denver, I hate Branch with all my heart and soul.
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    I don't hate Branch but wish we knew this Before the draft. We could have had this receiver situation handled better than it is now.
    Can't blame him for going for the money but he won't a SB with Seattle
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    Before the draft, the twerp said that he would honor his contract so HE was the reason we didn't know.

    IF you knew, then you wouldn't have taken Maroney???
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    That's what I said. We could have traded him before last years draft and grabbed another receiver or grabbed a FA one.
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    The same number of teams will make the playoffs - if not Denver, someone else will :)
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    Yep, we certainly did not know he would take it this far back then.
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    Pats and us fans should always be hoping to get in the best position for this current season so a Denver loss is clearly what benefits the Pats most.
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    Part of me says that a true champion defeats his nemises
    We need to beat Denver in a playoff game
    Revoke Shanahan's ownership of the Patriots, BB and Brady
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    root for Hawks. Denver wins they still can make playoffs as a WC. I do NOT
    want to see Denver in the playoffs even if Hawks #1 pick drops.

    With the problems PATs have had with Denver I can't see how anyone would
    want them anywhere close to the playoffs:confused:
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    i'm the one that's always posting threads about Seattle and their games and how i want them to lose.

    But not Tonight.

    Denver is 7-4, a loss would be HUUUUUGE.

    We don't want to see them in the playoffs, we don't want them in the playoffs at all.

    Seattle losing would be ok but the possibility of one of our first round picks improving next year is not worth as much to me as the possiblity of no Denver in the playoffs
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    I'm rooting for a good close game. I like good close games. Where the DP ends up, to me, isn't that important. Sometimes the best player in a draft is taken until the 6th round. Whether it ends up the 16th pick or 24th or whatever, if they pick the right guy it won't matter. And the 24th guy is cheaper.
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    Actually I can blame him...he didn't negotiate and make any counter offer to the Patriots.. I would have little proble, if he actually had some guts and played his contract like Vinatiieri and Givens did..but the lazy whiner wanted to go into temper tantrum mode wanting his oney...sorry. Branch is a phony little money grubber..I wish him nothing but the worst...
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    Denver for a number of reasons:

    1) Improves our draft position.
    2) I do not care for Deion Branch (putting it nicely).
    3) Improves Denver's playoff position (see #4).
    4) Finally, I want Denver to go on a run with their new QB leading into the playoffs (where we would possibly host them). If this guy gets Romo-esque hype, it could actually get everybody thinking Denver is going to beat us. Why is this immportant? Lately when we play those guys we are the favorites - for what reason, who knows. They always have the no-respect card thanks to Plummer. Now with Plummer benched, that's gone.
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    By the way...in SPITE of that I want the Hawks to win...I do not like dirty Shanny..wish to see his team fall downward...
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    absolutely.

    I'm shocked that this many people want Denver to win.

    I CANT STAND Seattle but we should all want them to win

    Relying on the Draft Pick next year kind of makes it seem like those people have no faith in this year.
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    I guess it depends which side of the coin you like?
    Some want Seattle to win so we don't have to face Denver who seems to have our number but some want us to play Denver so we can finally beat them.
    The bottom line is we have to play better in the playoff no matter who we play.
    I'll root for Seattle tonight.
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    I'm rooting for seattle I dont want denver anywhere near the playoffs
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    You just never know. Maybe Denver gets in and beats SD then we get to host Denver instead of going to SD. Just an example but there is no way to know if Denver winning helps or hurts us. But we know a Seattle loss helps the pick.

    GO BRONCOS.
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    Since SD is in the AFC West driver's seat, I'm not concerned with actually going to Denver in January. Count me as one of those not afraid of the Broncos in the playoffs.
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    I'm rooting for the 'hawks.

    First of all, you got Hass, a homegrown Mass-hole (from Westwood) and BC guy leading the team. Grew up a HUGE Pats fan.

    Most importantly, though, I *hate* the Broncos. Have since the Elway days. The guy was a whiner, the original "too good to play for the team that drafted me" primadonna, and constantly threw his teammates under the bus. Hated the way he was coronated by the NFL media after Terrel Davis carried the Broncos to two SBs.

    Then there's the Broncos' linemen's cavalier attitude towards opposing defender's knees.

    And of course, there's the fact that they've beat us pretty bad the last three times we played 'em.
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    Uncharacteristically, this is simply wrong.

    All teams are ranked for the draft by wins (except for the two Super Bowl teams, the lone exceptions). If Seattle wins their division at 8-8 but doesn't make the SB they will pick before all 9-7 teams, even though some of those 9-7 teams won't make the playoffs.

    Now, what is affected by their playoff status is where they pick in the group of teams with their same record. Within a group of teams tied with the same record, non-playoff teams always pick first. Among teams with the same record who are all in the playoffs, their order depends on how far they get in the playoffs. But again, unless they make the Super Bowl they will still be grouped with other teams with the same record.

    You have a misconception which is common, because a team making the playoffs ahead of those with better records is so unusual. But we do want Seattle to lose since a Denver win has so little potential effect on our playoff seeding and a Seattle loss WILL give us a better draft pick, almost guaranteed.
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    Well reasoned alamo
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    Of course...psychological block...the reasoning for everything :rolleyes:

    If we have to play Denver in the playoffs we should just concede defeat and save ourselves the trouble :rolleyes:

    To answer your question...I'll give the most logical answer. You don't go back into the elevator UNTIL you fix the obvious problem first. We don't lose to Denver because it's impossible to beat them, we just haven't "fixed the problem" and done what is needed to win. Is that tough? Absolutely. Impossible? Not on your life.
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    Are you guys rooting for Denver yet ? They're horrible, they're no threat to anyone win or lose.
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    That's why I want them to win - and until that last drive I thought the D would protect the lead. Cutler will likely commit another horrible mistake trying to win this one. Elam isn't even a factor since he hurt his hammy on that genius fake-FG by Shanahan.
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