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    All we know is that Elizabeth Warren continues to believe in family lore, and that geneologists have documented that her great-great-great grandmother was part Cherokee. Is this really any different that Brits who take pride in distant associations to Kings and Queens? But, I digress.

    Scott Brown apparently really did lie about his ancestry to get some media attention, and the lie resulted in the New York Times issuing a retraction. Let's hope the liberal media picks up this story that is sure to scandalize the holier-than-thou segment of the right wing. ...b-b-but this is different LOL.

    Scott Brown, Arthur Prentice Rugg, and misrepresentation of ancestry... - Weston, MA Patch

    ...In the 1980's, after Scott Brown appeared in Cosmo, he was interviewed by the New York Times. In that interview, he claimed to be the great-grandson of Arthur Prentice Rugg, a chief justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Court in the 19th century, and he said he found it amusing to be reading cases in which his great-grandfather was involved. Here's a snip from the original article:

    "Until a few weeks ago, Scott Brown was a 22-year-old first-year law student at Boston College Law School who frequently ran across opinions written by his great-grandfather, Arthur Prentice Rugg, former Chief Justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Court.

    "'I read many of his cases this year," he said, "which I found amusing.'"

    The problem for Scott? He was not Rugg's great-grandson, they were only distantly related. The Times had to print a retraction a few days later.
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    The Weston Patch?
    Sounds like something that may need to be waxed.

    :rofl::nono::rofl:

    Was there a box to check for being a relative of Arthur Prentice Rugg that gave Scott Brown minority status?

    No......Well then...... he never benefited.
    He also was a relative.

    Did it help him take a job away from a qualified minority?

    Funny how you have a problem with Scott Brown, but support
    Elizabeth Warren.

    I guess that is why we consider you a hypocrite.
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    (As far as the link goes, apparently you didn't click on the links to pdf image files of the actual sources in the New York Times.)

    Brown did benefit. He got written up in the New York Times, which is useful to a model, in a story that covered children and grandchildren of prominent people, not distant relatives.

    And, it has been established that Warren is part Cherokee.

    Also, I don't have a problem with either one. It's the Brown campaign that is raising this issue, so I'm just pointing out his hypocrisy and exposing the hypocrisy of those who make ancestry claiims a big deal.

    Both Warren and Brown are guilty of the same thing--exaggeration about their ancestry, but not complete lies.
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    Show me a job he took away from a minority?

    Really..... Please provide the link.

    :wha:

    Take a look at this.....

    Boston Globe unintentionally proves Elizabeth Warren’s ethnic fraud
    by
    William A Jacobson
    Associate Clinical Professor,
    Cornell Law School

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/0...onally-proves-elizabeth-warrens-ethnic-fraud/
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    As your link, which has more info than the link I was going to show, quotes the Globe retraction:

    "The document, alluded to in a family newsletter found by the New England Historic Genealogical Society, was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. Neither the society nor the Globe has seen the primary document, whose existence has not been proven."

    Thus, it's possible her great-great-great grandmother lied on her application. But, doesn't that seem unlikely?

    Now, show me a link that Warren took a job from a minority.

    And again, Brown lied about his ancestry in order to get free publicity from the New York Times, to help him with his modeling career. Like Warren, he lied about his ancestry.

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    Well.... You were unable to prove that Warren was a Cherokee.

    It someone lied on their application to the post office by saying they
    were a minority, I am sure you would say they took a job away from a
    minority.
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    Hey Patters!

    Stop objectifying men in you sig! It's misomasculinist (yes, that's a real word possibly) and I, for one, am deeply offended at your lack of respect for the not-opposite sex!

    Outrageous! And you call yourself a mod!

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    As are the threads about Warren''s ancestry.
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    Wake me up when Brown uses his 'royal' status to scam his way into a job and screw a minority applicant as Warren has on multiple occasions.

    Wake me up when Brown refuses to met with Royals the way Warren has with the Cerokee people whom she insulted by trying to steal their identity (their words).
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    No, her false claim is actually relevant.

    Bottom-line is Scott Brown is IN for another term whether you like it or not...and you know it.
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    How is it relevant? I thought things in the past didn't matter like the cause of homeless vets, those responsibel for superfund sites the Bush Presidency?

    Living in the past is for losers and neocons unless the effects of the past are still being felt in the present. I don't see how that's applicable regarding Warren.
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    Warren was listed as a minority by Harvard in 2012.....that's relevant to me.
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    Can you expound upon that?
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    so you are discrediting the board at Harvard?

    go on....
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    I saw a clip from one of her interviews, she said she had never used her heritage to get a job and that the only time she noted it was on her application to Harvard, which is probably why she's listed there the way she is.

    Of course it could be argued that once you graduate from Harvard you don't need to list much of anything else besides "graduated Harvard". I'd imagine that would open some doors for most people. (Assuming she graduated from there of course).

    We don't know who any of them really are anymore, anyway.
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    They don't even know who they are. If we did it would almost be unfair.

    Just tell me the policies they back. I felt this way when Clinton got impeached for getting his unit hoovered, I feel this way now. It's nice that to all appearances Barrack just goes to work then "goes home" to the wife and kids, but really who gives a damn? As long as I like what they're doing in office I am fine. And if it turns out that his Kenyan father was really part Somali, I similarly don't give a good gosh darn.

    Mitt's Mexican dad, similarly, does not weigh heavily on my thoughts this election season. But Mitt thinks he'd win if dad was a Hispanic Mexican... you know, because of all our previous Hispanic presidents.

    PFnV
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