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    Apparently, Penn State leads the pack, which means Richie O--I've stopped trying to spell his last name--might be ready right away, even before manmountain seabass.

    This is uplifting, really: YouTube - Penn State Football Strength Program

    This kid is like John Hannah lite. He is a mauler who never lets up.
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    I think he makes the PS, that's about it for him. JMO.
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    He's not going to the PS, you have to be released and clear waivers first. Your opinion is a non starter.
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    Since Belichick has been a coach. No pick above the 5th round has been cut during their 1st training camp. In fact, Kareem Brown is the only 4th round pick that BB has released during their rookie year.
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    Calling him Hawg Lite is a little oxymoronic. Ohrnberger out weighs Hawg by 30 pounds, minimum...:rolleyes:
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    More generally, how do all of you factor in a school's strength & conditioning program when you're evaluating a draft prospect? Is a pro-level program a pure plus, because the player is likely to be "readier," or do you take off upside points assuming that the player is maxed out physically?
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    There are a couple junior colleges that are known for their conditioning programs, so much so that many athletes who dont initially cut it, go to these schools for a year or two, get better/stronger/faster and have success once they rejoin a high level football program.
    I forget their names, one is in texas, and one in tennesse i think, but kids go and play in their lower level football programs just so they have access to the conditioning programs
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    You don't and you do. It's just that PSU players are held in high regard by strength coaches in the league. The video presents an impressive case for physical development that's better than most. Makes 'em more able to step right in.

    Yeah, Hog Hannah came in at 265. That was big then. Wow.
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    Hmmm. Sorry, but when I saw the post name, I thought of enhancers right away...
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    So which would you rather have, a player who is very talented and played at a high level even though his strength and conditioning was not top notch, or one who played a mediocre level (Ohrenberger) but whose strength and conditioning program WAS top notch?

    Almost by definitin Ohrenberger is maxed out at mediocre.
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    Three time All Big Ten isn't chicken feathers...:eek:
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    You also have to think about technique & mental awareness. Unless your a top 15 pick, you probably need a good amount of work on your technique(especially lineman, D or O) and just your ability to grasp the new games speed
    So would you rather have a player who played at a high level and wasnt "maxed" out physically (which as a overly-qualified personal trainer is a ridiculous idea to me, you can always improve something) who has ok technique
    or a player who played at a high level, that is "maxed" out, and still needs technique work.
    Like what if the guy that played at a higher level( was on a team that was successful which makes him look better indivudially) has perfect technique and has the body type that suggests that he can only get marginally stronger, even with a kickass program. Would you take him over the player that was pretty good, had decent technique, but the body type to really become a beast, which he almost already is?
    Also being a gym ratyear after year kinda shows GMs that you are committed to making yourself better day in day out, not just to get better combine #s. And people that are better conditioned not only recover from injuries better, but generally have less little problems, because their muscle tissue is denser, not just bigger and their ligaments are stronger(and just as important, flexible).
    As they say, the best ability is availiblity.
    Sorry for the lengthy response, I usually dont have coffee:D
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