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  1. Rob0729

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    Here are some of the highlights:

    - Players will receive 48% of all revenues
    - No off the top credit (the owners were looking for $1 billion)
    - The players are guaranteed that their percentage would not fall below 46.5%
    - Owners will get some expense credits for new stadium construction
    - Rookie wage scale will be included, but still needs to be tweaked
    - A 16 game Thursday night schedule will be introduced in 2012 and the package will be sold to a network
    - Significant increases in pensions and health benefits for retired players if revenues continue as expected through 2016
    - All players with 4 or more years of experience and contracts expired after the 2010 season are UFAs.


    No vote today, but it looks like the owners are on board with the direction. Looks like by the sounds of it, a new CBA is imminent and could be done before the July 4th holiday.


    Lockout: Sources reveal details of proposed NFL CBA - ESPN
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    great news cant wait for football
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    This is reason to be very optimistic at this point. By "leaking" out these terms (which appear to be quite reasonable)- any breakdown in talks would then be construed as insubordination.

    Great move.
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    4th, 5th and 6th year players will all be UFA's.

    That affects Green-Ellis and Page I believe.
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    Ellis would still be restricted. Page isn't a big deal. Does this add any FAs of interest to the mix?
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    It affects Page, but I am pretty sure BJGE is going into his fourth year. So he has another year before free agency. He came into the league in 2008.

    The good news is that it hurts the Jets since the Jets had 9 player with RFA tenders including Santonio Holmes, Antonio Cromartie, and Brad Smith. And my personal favorite for a free agent acquisition, Mathias Kiwanuka, is an UFA>
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    Great news if accurate. If they get it done soon we will still get a full season as well as the necessary preparation for it.
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    This is the best news I have heard for a while regarding the lockout! :D
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    That has made FA even more interesting! Can't see Rice wanting to stay in Minn! QBs have 3 starts between them, who is going to get him the ball?
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    It's coming from Schefter, not Burt, so that's a good sign.
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    What will be interesting is whether or not the franchise and transition tags have been eliminated. If they have, what does that do to the guys who were tendered and signed their tenders.
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    You know when you really think about it, assuming that a deal is done by July 4th, what have all the teams missed?

    One mandatory 3 day mini camp and one "voluntary" one

    So in reality all that has been missed is about 6 practices. Now granted the team based conditioning programs have all been missed, but most of the players have been working out. You Know, back in my day, most players went to training camp to GET in shape. ;)

    BOTTOM Line I think that most teams will have the time to get 99% of what they'd normally have in when the season starts. I've always felt that all the talk about the "irreparable damage" that the lockout incurred was WAY overblown. Of course this assumes that a deal is done by the 2nd week of July.

    On the plus side, this would make July, a notoriously dead period for football, a very interesting Month
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    3 very good and 1 potentially very good WRs there.

    Would love Malcom Floyd in New England.
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    Teams missed free agency before the draft. Far from an ideal situation when a draft class is good. Condiering how shallow this past draft class was, the effect is magnified.
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    I think you are underestimating what the teams lost. I think this is still going to kill the rookie class this season. Most of these kids are months behind in their getting acclimated to the NFL and their new team. I would expect fewer star rookies this season.

    Also, a lot teams are going to be way behind with their timing between QBs and receivers. A lot of that work is done in the offseason.

    Lastly, a lot of younger and back up players will suffer because many starters will need extra time in preseason games to work their ways back into shape.
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    So rookies on their first contract are still held to that contract, correct (assuming there are no 7+ year contracts for rookies)?

    RFA's with 1 more year on their contract are still RFA's it would seem? and obviously anyone under contract is still under contract (what am i missing or and I reading too much int othe "and" part of the quote and assumign there's a logic conenction :) )

    it seems to be an omission about franchise/transition tags. The players are usually upset with the tag and you'd think they would have built this into the new CBA.
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    What I'm interested in is the players who weren't slapped with the tag because of their RFA status. With the RFA status gone, will teams get a second bite at the franchise tag apple?
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    It sounds like tags will continue to be in play but all those who lost out on free agency last year will be automatic UFA's. It sounds like a fair deal for all and it is clear the players aren't interested in eliminating the basic structure of the league and the draft, free agency etc... will continue to be used. Hopefully this gets done, it sounds like the ball is in the owners court and if the moderate owners have the votes the deal will get done.
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    It's an interesting thought but I can't think of a single player who qualifies. Can you?
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    I think the players were willing to negotiate pretty much everything other than an 18 game season and the ceiling the owners were trying to impose on shared revenues, those were the dealbreakers and it's clear from the deal proposed that the players were willing to take a lower share and agree to con tinue with the same basic structures that have existed for years.
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    Sure. There are lots of them. Just the Giants alone, for example, have players like

    DE Mathias Kiwanuka
    WR Steve Smith
    RB Ahmad Bradshaw
    DT Barry Cofield
    TE Kevin Boss
    OL Kevin Boothe
    DE Dave Tollefson.


    Whether anyone thinks such players are worth the tag is obviously open to question, but I'm just curious as to whether any agreement would give teams another chance to do it because of the big change in RFA/UFA rules.
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    Will Brady still be able to wear fancy hats?
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    From 59.5 to 48% is a huge cut. Are there some compensations for the players?
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    The players weren't making 59.5% before.
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    Remember, the 59.5% applied to $9 billion only after $1 billion was taken off the top. In reality that is 53 %. So in aiming for 48 % of total without anything off the top, the players are willing to settle for a net swing of approx. $500 million. All this is short term, static sense -- not including new revenues and growth in future. In return, they get teams to spend on a cash bases the annual cap, as opposed to some clubs that were routinely 20 to 30 million below cap annually.
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    Not in our case, for the most part. We picked 1 OT, 2 RBs, which are (by comparison) relatively simple transitions, and the one safety we picked is going to come off the bench anyway, and the QB we picked is 3rd string.
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