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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    Well that's a good start! :) Now if we can keep him from getting on that plane to New Orleans!!

    Never hurts to have another locker room leader and (Even at his age) tackle machine.

    I would love this move.
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    Unfortunately, the only reason an agent leaks information about an offer being made after a visit - and before subsequent visits - is when they're trying to drive the price up.

    I much prefer situations where guys who want to be a Patriot visit, get a fair offer, and accept it, and cancel their remaining visits.

    This report suggests to me that Thomas is looking for the highest bid for services, and generally I expect the Patriots aren't going to win that war.
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    might work.....
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    If he gets on a plane and schedules other visits, you can bet he won't be playing for New England. Seau might wonder why he played for $1 million if Zach gets offered a lot more.
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    like when adalius didnt visit san fran
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    Has he left yet?? maybe there can be an airport delay....I do agree if a deal is NOT finalized, he may land somewhere else..
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    this is what they said. Go to the other teams and tell us what they are offering, divide that by PI, then take the logarithm of the result. We will give you that and you will like it. KthxBye
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    it might not necessarily be about money if he leaves. maybe the patriots have told him he will have a limited role. he might talk with other teams to see what role they are offering. if he leaves, it doesnt automatically mean he wants more money
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    That's what everyone said last year about Stallworth - who has/had the same agent as Thomas. He left NE and eventually signed here.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    On most levels, I'd be delighted to get him.

    But I must admit that an ILB with concussion problems is worrisome.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    The Cowboys were the only team other then the Patriots on his "original" preferred list (Cowboys, Patriots, Chargers, Colts) so the chances would probably be lower for the other teams he is visiting, unless it is all about the money.

    50-50 chance, I guess
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    I hope they offered nothing more than the vet minimum plus incentives. Because that's all that I would pay him.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    What's to worry about? Ted Johnson was great and he had concussion problems.:bricks:

    Seriously though, I think it's great BB is willing to sign him because it means he thinks Zak still has something left in the tank.
    That would make a very nice veteran rotation in that mlb position.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    Geeeeesh people! Stop worrying.... there is a reason why he visited the Pats first. Also, if he does decide to play elsewhere, the Pats defense will be okay without him.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    if he visits the Rats then chances are he'll fairly beg the Patriots to sign him...that experience would scar me for life...imagine...that stinking swamp, the G Men landlords laughing at you like an illegal immigrant every time you show up to play a "home" game...a fat stool pigeon head coach and players who throw each other under the bus and look for excuses not to play. Thomas wants no part of THAT nightmare.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday


    If they get Thomas for vet minimum that would be ridiculous, use some common sense now. There is no way such a steal could happen.
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    Yup. And this IS Rosenhaus we're talking about here.
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    Re: Shefter: Pats made Z Thomas offer

    I agree.

    It would be nice to have Thomas, but if he takes another offer it's not the end of the world. He is a 34 year old lb that has had a recent injury history.

    Maybe you could get a decent year or two out of him, but he is clearly trending downward.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    i argee he did say he wants to win but if he is looking for more $ i cant blame him he dose have concussions this could be hes last yer
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    The Pats and Cowboys are obviously the favorites and I'm sure Rosenhaus advised Zach that even though he more than likely wanted to accept the Pats offer, that it would be in his best interest to atleast finish what he intended to do and honor those already scheduled visits. When all the offers come in it will come down to his homestate (Cowboys) or the Pats both of whom have legitimate SB hopes next season which as he stated is what he's looking for.

    The key statement is sentence #2 from Schefter in bold.

    "The Patriots offered a contract to former Dolphins linebacker Zach Thomas on Monday, reports NFL Network's Adam Schefter.

    Thomas and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, visited New England on Monday and will continue negotiations with the team. Thomas is scheduled to visit with the New Orleans Saints on Tuesday."
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    If he visits other teams after an offer from the Pats, he probably won't be accepting it.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    Didn't AD, Washington, and Stallworth all visit with other teams last offseason?

    I know his visiting other teams increases the odds of his signing elsewhere (duh), but that doesn't mean he's not going to end up signing with NE when all is said and done. I also wouldn't say it means NE's offer wasn't good enough, just that he's keeping his scheduled visits.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    no AD came here and signed here right away. Said he wasnt looking for the highest money..if it was right, hes taking it
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    Did he cancel his initial visit with the 49ers? I can't remember now. I remember some 49ers writer saying something like "Thomas is supposed to visit with the 49ers today", but I can't remember if he made that visit. I thought he made one visit with the 49ers, and quickly decided he wanted to sign with NE directly after that visit? Maybe it was right after his Pats visit, and only hours before that scheduled 49ers visit? Can't remember.... I know Washington and Stallworth both visited with multiple teams though. I also know the 49ers were willing to pay AD more than NE.

    Edit: I think I know why I got confused/couldn't remember the situation. AD was given an offer by the 49ers that was more than NE's offer. He turned that offer down because NE seemed like the better fit for him, and he wanted to stay on the east coast. So, even if he didn't visit with the 49ers he still turned down a better offer to sign with NE.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    I think there's at least an 80% chance he comes here. Dallas has already said they don't really want to spend the $$$ and why would he want the Texans, Jets or Bills ... be serious... what free agent wants to play for Mangina the rat?
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    I do question how much Thomas is really worth at this point in his career.

    I've no doubt someone would overpay for him - but I don't think even then we're talking about anything close to taxing a team that has average cap room.

    I guess in some respects that makes me feel better, in that the Patriots could "overpay" him but relatively speaking they'd still not be sinking significant cap space into him.

    In other words, this ain't the Adalius Thomas money we're talking about - its Zach Thomas.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    Thomas is too old. Also, where would he fit in with Seau and Bruschi? They would make up the three oldest LB's in the league. I just don't see it happening. The Saints need Thomas more than New England. And why would Dallas want him? They are loaded at LB. I think the Colts would be a good fit for him.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    Technically if Thomas signs here our depth chart is Z. Thomas and E Alexander, 1 and 2 respectively.
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    Re: Schefter: Pats made offer to Zach Thomas on Monday

    The key above is your conjunction -- my guess is it is "or" not "and."

    If it is "or" than obviously Thomas makes a ton more sense when you are rotating him with one of Seau or Bruschi.
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