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    http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/09/09/patriots-ahead-of-their-time-again/

    Schefter is reporting that the Pats were simply setting their emergency board with the Simms and Rattay visits.
     
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    says good things about Cassel

    The more I think about this the more excited I am to see how it will unfold.
     
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    this makes no sense at all.

    With a healthy Tom Brady, you schedule these guys to come in for a visit to test the waters (as backups).

    then, when Tom Brady goes down for the season, you tell those guys that the situation changed and you don't need them?

    What the?

    Barring a FA signing or trade in the near future, this just doesn't make sense. I'm not buying that Cassell looked so good that they no longer needed to work these guys out. When Brady was still healthy and Cassell was the #2, they wanted to work them out.
     
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    Probably they will revist with them next week. If they were already planning to look at them before Brady went down, they didn't want to give the impression that this was a reactionary move because Brady went down.

    The Pats always bring in guys just to check them out for future consideration.
     
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    Could be that knowing Cassel would have to start against the Jets, they want him focused and not looking over his shoulder. Just a thought.
     
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    It makes a lot of sense to me. Teams have visits all the time, for ex Reiss reported these visits on Monday:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/09/patriots_tryout.html

    I don't think the Pats are in the market for a WR, eventhough they had 4 visit on Monday but just in case injuries hit the position they need to be prepared.

    I think after Brady was hurt the Pats changed their thinking and thought about the psychological impact that signing a Simms or Rattay would have. Singing those guys when Brady is the starter means nothing and they will know their role when they sign but now those guys will have their eye on the starting spot. There needs to be a definite pecking order at QB and right now the best move is to show Cassel you have confidence in him. In reality the Pats best chance is to have Cassel be succesful. If you have to turn to Simms or Rattay that means things are very dire, it will show desperation.
     
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    if this is true, simms or rattay wouldve been behind brady and cassell ? if not then what does it say about their 'confidence' in casell ??:(
     
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    I'm pretty sure they were sent back because Belichick wants to show Cassel that he has all the faith in the world in him.

    If this Cassel thing works and we make the playoffs and hopefully earn a title, this may go down as the greatest coaching job ever.
     
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    Make's sense because you have a Matt Cassel in the last year of his contract... So BB needed to bring in someone who they felt was worth signing for more than 1 year to learn the playbook under TB. When that player got thrust into action, the plan to have a capable back beyond this year was thrown out the window, and no longer needed...
     
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    here is peter king's uninformed take on it

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/09/09/mail/index.html?eref=T1

     
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    Denial is a wonderful thing :D

    It makes sense if you think about it. Simms and Rattay would need several weeks to be able to back up Brady. With the injury, BB needs a QB for next SUnday, and that can only be Cassel.

    Now that he has Cassel, who got pummeled by mediots and faniots last summer, he doesn't want him looking over his shoulder every pass. QBs need confidence, and that is not a confidence builder to see soemone on the sideline waiting for you to screw up, and/or to feel you have to force a ball rather than throw it away on third down and force a punt (with attendent home town crowd boos from the faniots).
     
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    F Peter King.

    Sending them off without a workout and physical could just have been Pioli down-checking them after the interview.
     
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    I see several reason, that one.

    They were thinking of signing these guys with the expectation that they would join the team and be ready to be a back up week 4 or 5, if Brady went down then.

    Also team coaching time constraints. When they thought Brady would be QB against the Jets the team had time to workout some QBs. Now those personal is busy getting Cassel ready.

    But I think the biggy is what you said. Matt, you are taking us to the post season or you are taking us to an early draft pick. But you won't be sitting on the pine.
     
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    BB wanted to give Cassel a second chance so that he won't complain that he has not had an opportunity to 'play' if he screws up.

    We'll see him playing this Sunday.
     
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    This is exactly what Schefter just speculated on Total Access
     
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    goes to show how hard one is working to get information and how another is just speculating that the pats are so egoistic that they would fly someone the previous night and then send them back.
     
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    Agreed on both. Though the Pats are always prepared and were probably well aware of the possibility of injury to Tom, there's a big difference between an injury that sidelines Brady for say 2 weeks, and one that ends his season. Belioli went from 0 to 250 in seconds. Their needs changed from "let's see what's out there to cover us just in case" to a major catastrophe. Joe Montana wasn't applying so rather than settle, they went with Matt. Once that decision was made, they circled the wagons and decided the easiest transition for the team was Cassel, therefore the last thing they wanted to do was rattle his confidence. He looked awful in preseason, fans and the media were calling for his head and he knew it.

    If this works out, the Cassel Decision will be one more item on BB's legend book. Right up there with Brady over Drew, etc. Epic if Jupiter aligns with Mars and they win it all.
     
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