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Back today...will give any updates if players return then will give a breakdown later.
Pryor is back
That was fun.
Sergio prolly had the hit of camp when he popped Riddley to keep him out the endzone.
Hernandez had a stretch where he caught 3 tds in redone work. Though I called Vollmer for a hold on one of em.
At one point the ol failed on three straight plays bringing out an f bomb from Scar. Anderson and Moore got would be sacks on the plays.
Moore had another sack he was standing next to Brady stopped with his hand up when Brady lifted a deep one to Chad who made a nice catch.
Moore might be my new Binky as he can rush. Anderson looks like a decent rusher too.
Solder is a big boy and looks good to me. I thought I saw him at guard once but after practice I was wondering if I might have confused one of our massive TE for a tackle.
Chung looked like the best tackler during one on one tackling drills.
I think Price looked good again today. he looks like a smooth route runner.
Gronk is a beast.
I will add more if I think of more.
It wouldn't surprise me if price is the number 3 by week 4
Seem to be getting consistently good reports on Price. Glad to hear it. To those who've been fortunate enough to get to camp: How's his relationship seemed with Brady? We all know how important that is: If TB likes the way you read coverage and run routes, you're good; if not, you're hanging with Joey Galloway and Chad Jackson.
Watching Brady's body language and relationship to a wideout in camp is an excellent leading indicator if it's extreme either way. Along those lines is Tate in particular getting the full Chad Jackson irritation and cold shoulder from Tom? If so, bye! If not he's just trailing the pack but in the hunt.
I didn't stay the entire time but I did have small observations while I was there.
1. Ninck is much better at covering Gronk than Guyton is. I recall watching Guyton getting beat last weekend while this time I saw #50 hang with Gronk in fairly tight coverage. Gronk could still get passed to but at least the coverage was much better.
2. Price runs smoothly, which might have me fooled, because he looks a little slow to me. When I watch them running routes, Chad looks faster to me. Price had some struggles in ST when they had him return punts. Edelman is still our primary punt returner from the looks of things. Welker was cycled in as well and did fine. I mention this because Price could secure a roster spot if he manages to perform well in these scenarios. And for anybody thinking Edelman is in danger of being cut, it doesn't appear the case so long as he's our best punt returner.
3. Slater is still the best gunner on this team. At one point I watched him easily work around a double team to run down to where the returner was (one of the blockers was #32. I didn't see who the other one was).
4. Arrington looks to be our #3 corner. He isn't anything special out there, but he doesn't seem out of place when he's matched up against anybody.
5. Cunningham and Moore lined up as the starting ends plenty of times with #75 and 74 at tackle.
Again, I didn't stay the whole time so I probably missed some quality 11 on 11 action.
Absolutely agree on Slater.
But I really like Arlington and I think he is better than your stating.
I'm still at Patriot Place. I'll post an update later tonight.
Can you rush the passer?
Can he stop the run?
My 2 binkies from today's camp were Nate Solder and Ryan Mallett.
I thought Solder looked real good today especially given the small amount of time he's had on the field. When he walked up to the line in the 11v11s, he looked mammoth. He is a natural LT, his stance the way he sets up post snap on his step-back, his technique looked excellent and his footwork very fluid, he more than handled his own. He honestly looks like he could step right in day one in Sept.
Mallet is ready to take the #2 spot, tall and impressive in the pocket and ball jumps out of his hands on slants and outs. Throws frozen ropes and his accuracy looked really good today. You can tell he has the fire, he wants it. He was constantly talking to the coaches about routes when Brady and Hoyer were taking snaps, there was no down time for Ryan. The other great thing to see was Ryan staying after practice and working with the WRs. This kid wants it, it was great to see.
Price looked good, smooth, nice routes and good hands, he's definately going to get himself on the field in regular offensive sets, no question.
Didn't see Tate out there, not that it matters, because I think that WR ship has sailed anyway, but I'm not sure if he's hurt or what.
Gronk looked like John Mackey out there. Caught everything remotely close to him and ran over one of the safeties, may have been Sergio. He's predicted to have a Pro Bowl year and if you've seen what he's been doing in camp you'll know why.
Impressive today were:
Solder, Mallet, Gronk, Hernandez, Edelman and Slater, yes Slater, not only on ST but as a WR, the kid ran some nice routes and caught every ball thrown to him by Mallet.
I thought for sure you would discuss the moment we picked up on when they worked situational football plays the PUNTING TEAM!!
This is yet another reason why I think BB is tops, I don't know for sure, but how many other coaches, in training camp practice, would call for a punt with 13 seconds to go - instruct the punter to kick it out of bounds and then totally go off on Mesko when he booted it down the middle of the field. He looked at him, swore at him, said are you kidding me and made the kid run two laps, and deservedly so.
Situational football - that's what it is all about and I guarantee, Mesko kicks it out of bounds when it counts should the situation comes up during the season or playoffs.
While I am here, let me also add to the growing Nate Solder fan club by saying this kid seems to have it all. He looks great (after three practices anyway).
Finally, my 2011 binkie is ,ahem, #82 -- Vincent Brisby, I mean Jeremy Ross Brisby!! At 5-11 215 pound and runs a 4:35 40, he looks more like a running back than a WR. I don't know how he will make this team, but he sure does seem to me to have talent. Maybe practice squad? Check out his Cal page -- Player Bio: Jeremy Ross - The University of California Official Athletic Site
Keep your eye on him if anyone happens to make it to Foxboro.
Your comment about Mallet made me think the reason that BB likes him was because of his "love of football" attitude in addition to his skill. The football attitude over-rode any worries about the off field stuff.
I also think he has an approach that could push TB, I seem to remember he was quoted as saying he wasn't going to dink and and dunk like Brady does.
A great Tuna-ism went something like "'Potential' is another way of saying 'haven't done jack yet.'"
I am not going to put much stock into the training camp performance of a rookie QB when the vast majority of QBs who come into the league never become anything better than career backups. This is even more true outside of first rounders. I'm not saying that Mallett will be terrible or anything, I'm just saying that I'm ignoring him. I would only be paying attention if I was hearing BAD things about his character and work ethic.
However, some other positions, including RB and OL, are places that a young guy can come in and excel. Because of this, I have high hopes for Solder and Ridley, hearing that they are both doing well. Vereen and Cannon already have health issues that may hold them back, but I hope one or both can contribute soon, as both are at positions where they will both have the opportunity to compete for starting jobs if they can.
Thank you everyone for the updates. This thread is awsome.
I noticed all the reports are pretty positive, but are there any areas that need work?
Someone in another thread said the O-line's pass blocking was piss poor today. I am sure they are just a little behind everyone else, but because of the bad o-line in the last 3 playoff losses this is a concern for me.
The instructions to the punter are the simplest things any coach gives any player at anytime in a game. "Kick it out of bounds." If he can't do that...he should be running for a couple of hours, not just a couple of laps. Jeepers.
I was at practice today as well...
The oline signed autographs today and Solder came right in front of the section I was sitting in. He's a very large human being. But he's skinny - like a basketball powerforward. His stomach is very close to being flat. I was going to make a comment about his needing to hit the buffet but thought better of it. Then, when Dante came by to sign I thought I about telling him...
Aside from that I noticed solder playing high in his stance. This resulted in him catching from the DEs rather than attacking and setting the tone. He was also a bit high on run plays and did not get an especially strong push. At one point Dante was coaching him up but after that was done Solder was sort of hanging his head. I think he needs to work on sitting lower in his stance and delivering a punch to re-direct rather than catching. These are things he will get in due time. And I'd also like to see him put on some weight!
Woodhead looks like weighs a solid 205-210 right now. He went from a cornerback physique to a kevin faulk like physique. And it looks like it's all in the thigh/lower leg area. Solder needs this as well along with a little girth to his waist.
During the goalline drill... I saw Fletcher DESTROY Koppen on a MLB blitz! He blew him 3 yards into the backfield. Lucky for 67 it was a run right. Fletcher has looked really good. Smooth when running with RBs and around the football. Hard to believe he was a DE. He looks natural playing MLB.
McCourty looks very sharp. Sticking to receivers like glue and making a play on the ball when it's in the air.
I hope the 2 rookie TE's make the team. They are large, powerful monsters.
Thanks for all the camp reports guys - very interesting to read
Mallett said he was looking forward to learning the dinks and dunks that Brady does. Montana was great at 'dinks and dunks', he said it was much more wearing on a defense than getting a quick TD with a long pass.
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