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    Let us hope (and pray if you so choose) that our current government does not follow Saul Alinsky's "How to bring liberalism into mainstream" playbook. If they are, they are betraying the people who voted them into office. The VAST majority of Americans are moderate (or mainstream) democrats and republicans. That means our votes are in support of a mainstream government and policies.

    Saul Alinsky was a radical who had a plan that stated that radicals should ridicule mainstream or traditional Americans through the media and gov't officials. He believed they would have no defense against such ridicule.

    Don't be fooled by the fools who utilize Alinsky's tactics. Don't allow your beliefs to be ridiculed by these same fools. Americans have no desire to become a far-left nation, so don't be fooled by the fools.

    Go ahead...make my day! :D
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    Of course tha is what the administration these are the rules they have employed since they were 'student activist' enjoy the ride to socialism.
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    And neither is there a desire to become a far-right nation, as evidenced by the latest elections.

    There's nothing inherently wrong that Saul Alinsky is doing (from your description). He is merely trying to sway people over to his cause, much like the religious right has been doing for years. It's politics. That you have to pick on and condemned this man has as much to say about your politics as it does his.
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    godef...FYI

    I'd rather become a far-left nation than a far-right one buddy. My point is that Americans don't want either. And I'm not criticizing Alinsky since he's dead. I'm criticizing those who are currently using his tactics to sway people to the left.

    I believe that everyone has the right to believe as they please without a bunch of idiots trying to "sway" them with deceptive tactics.
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    Is there less deception on the right or the left, or is the challenge trying to figure out some semblance of truth amidst all of the bullshyt...

    Community Organizing has gotten a bad name, mostly because it is mislabeled.. it generally means a grass roots efforts at getting a group of people together to effect some type of change in their environment. It is a purposeful action, that has been done by many folks in many situations. It is as simple as getting a playground built in a neighborhood or as complicated as works of Cesar Chavez and immigrant labor.
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    With the current populace having an attention span of about 34 seconds, and more focused on American Idol, than America itself, we're likely to swing to extreme's until one of two things happen. We destroy ourselves, and break into pieces like the USSR did, or some credible leader presents himself, and rights the ship. The extreme swings which are prevelent in situations where people don't have the ability to understand what's actually going on, are not good long term. GW & the GOP took us down the road of neo-conservativism, and now Obama and his cohorts in power are taking us down the road of liberalism. Sorry, but the swings are far too extreme, and destructive. IMO anyway.
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    My goodness... seriously?
    Bill O'Reily talks about Saul last night, and you parrot it the very next day...


    That Conservative talk points memo is a well coordinated attack down to Football message boards...
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    HAven't you ever seen the attacks on Limbaugh and what ever the dem talking points of the day are here also.. ;)
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    Yeah I know...
    Last night I just happened to watch a little of O'Riely, and he's talking about a guy I've never heard of, and linking him to the Dems and Obama... and I thought... My goodness... are you serious.

    So to see it here the very next morning is like lock and step party parrots.
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    You seem to be a noob here I have brought up Alinsky and his association with borth Hillary and Obama over the past election cycle, (ie early in the primaries) well before you made your appearance. BTW I don't watch O'Reilly.

    How do you feel about Alinsky?
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    I think you have to consider context. Bush acted almost exclusively in reaction to 9-11 and Obama's acted exclusively in reaction to the economic crisis. Lefties just wouldn't feel the way they do about Bush absent 9-11 and once this crisis passes Obama will govern differently.
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    This may be the funnist post of the year, pre 9-11 Bush was attacked afor haven 'stolen' the election, please.

    BO planned to nationalize health care well before any 'crisis'. As well as have a host of new 'programs', many of which have been incorporated into the 'stimilus' pork package.

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    I didn't watch OReilly last night...I'm a CNN guy myself. I enjoy the balance of Lou Dobbs and Anderson Cooper. I very rarely watch Fox. any station that employs Sean Hannity doesn't deserve my time.

    So instead of avoiding the topic and attacking the thread author, do you have anything intelligent to offer?
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    Why do you have to keep telling everyone what "America wants" why can't you just let the conversation be had. I just looked at the wikipedia page of this guys, since I had heard of him briefly during the election but I had no idea who he was. What is your issue with him exactly? What did he say that you didn't like? It seems to me like he's some moderately well known left wing character that the right obsesses over to try and make it look like the left os working from some secret playbook, but again I have never read the guy and I don't know anyone who talks about him. If the left presents arguments that win in the American mainstream, that means the American people agree. If they don't, then they don't. I'm not sure why you're trying to turn any viewpoint that you don't agree with into some diabolical plot to destroy America. Democracy and free speech aren't about doing whatever you can to maintain and protect the status quo.
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    Wildo...

    You're taking me WAYyyyyy too seriously. If you've noticed, many threads that are posted on this site are for the sole purpose of getting people riled up. I am not immune to that now and then.

    I realize everything you wrote above, but unlike you, I don't operate in a logical/rational world. Opinions and emotions play a role in what I do each day. You seem like Dr Spock buddy...as in "That is totally illogical"
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    rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble :d
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    I actually went to see the new Star Trek last night. I thought it was very good. If you like that kind of movie, check it out.
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    You know, I had no interest in seeing that movie since I'm not into CGI explosion fests like that, but I may have to since it's getting such phenomenal reviews. It's got 96% on Rotten Tomatoes. I like JJ Abrams too.

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