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  1. Fogbuster

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    For all you pitch-forkers chasing Libby: seek and you shall receive, sow and you shall reap:

    http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070124-121614-2703r.htm

    "Eighteen House Republicans have urged the Justice Department to proceed with a polygraph test for Samuel R. Berger, the former national security adviser who agreed to take the test as part of a plea of guilty of stealing documents from the National Archives. This may be the only way for anyone to know whether Mr. Berger denied the 9/11 commission and the public the complete account of the Clinton administration's actions or inactions during the lead-up to the terrorist attacks on the United States," the congressmen said in their letter to Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales. "

    What goes around, comes around. Get ready for Billy Blue Dress Redux. Co-starring Hillary as the PO'd "woman scorned".

    Ha, ha. Great theater. Just in time for 2008. Got to love the symmetry of it.

    The one who throws the first sucker punch may woof and dance for a while, but he ALWAYS gets paid back eventually. Always.


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    It's pathetic how the right-wing still tries to pin 9/11 on Clinton, when Bush had 8 months to correct Clinton's "mistakes." Where was the right-wing during Bush's first 8 months? Why weren't they urging him to address those mistakes? I'm not against Berger taking the lie detector test, but the failure to stop 9/11 will for the rest of history belong to Bush. Only his administration had the opportunity to stop 9/11, just as only the Clinton administration had the chance to stop the first WTC attack. Let's remember, that Clinton's approval rating during the Lewinsky scandal was over 60%. What's Bush's approval rating? 28%. LOL.
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    #15 Jersey

    Good luck with that! Remember not too long ago, when the Democrats wanted to investigate the Republicans shady dealings, but couldn't because they were not in power?
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    It's unbelieveable what this little whacko crook did, a man that worked for "A PRESIDENT" sticking stolen documents from a Government building in his underwear then hiding them under a truck.

    Can you just imagine the YOWLING and SCREAMING for impeachment and the firing squad if Condi Rice did this.

    Clinton should be investigated also because that lip biting bastard knew all about it.

    WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE AND WE WANT SANDY BURGLAR TO GO TO PRISON FOR ESPIONAGE.

    PUT CLINTON IN FRONT OF A GRAND JURY---"AGAIN"---

    WE WANT ANSWERS.
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    I'm all for Libby taking a polly, as I am for Burglar. Until they start throwing lying, bum, corrupt, loser politicians in jail, the state of our government will only decline further. I can guarantee that this won't happen though. It just makes too much sense, and too many corrupt politicians would be opening up a pandora's box for the same to be done to them some day. Just look at the reaction from both sides of the isle when that congressman got caught with $100k in bribe money in his freezer and his office was subsequently raided. Both fraud parties were beating the drum of injustice. Why? Cuz they were scared sh!tless that their office might be next.
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    "Pathetic" or not, it is what it is. The time of petty one-upmanship is over. From now on those who only want to beat their chest and proclaim their own "righteousness", while trying to put down others , are going to be scrutinized with X-rays and a very fine-toothed comb.

    The measure you give will be the measure you receive. Take it to the bank. You'll become rich.


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    Probably looking for the records of what had happened, when, where, and how. Like the Rose Law Firm records, and the "classy, warm, friendly" welcome the Clinton staffers prepared for the Bush transition team, the info on al qaeda that Ollie North had from the '80s was probably more than what the Clintons gave to the Bush administration.

    You can point the blame to others all you want, but the truth is, the finger is coming right back at you this time. You can run but you cannot hide. This time it is for real. Shuck and jive time is over, for good.


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    Don't worry, the time for full disclosure is at hand. All is going to be revealed. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

    Of course, be careful what you wish for !!

    :bricks:

    Still, it's better to have the air finally cleaned, after all the dirt and soot filling it for so long. Ah, a breath of fresh air!! Just what the doctor ordered.



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    Patience, HB, patience. All in due time. The time of darkness is lifting. All will be revealed this time. Everything. No more "free passes". None are above the highest law, no one.


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    Fogbuster, the $40 million taxpayer funded witchhunt amounted to nothing. I think the Congress should sue the Republican Party for a refund. And, you can try to deflect responsibility for Bush's failures onto Clinton -- that's the Republican way. Deny responsibility, pass the buck, blame others, but frankly the American people aren't buying it.

    9/11 happened on Bush's watch. He had 8 month prior to prevent it. He failed, and now he's caused the deaths of 1000s of more Americans in a needless war in Iraq that is killing tens of thousands and costing American prestige. You talk about Satan in another thread. Certainly the sycophantic right-wing support for Bush that's causing the deaths of 1000s is far more evil than anything, anything Clinton did. Lewinsky is nothing compared to the 3,000 dead soldiers in war a based on lies, misinformation, and incompetence.

    Quit trying to play the blame game; the right-wing already lost that game. No one buys it anymore accept the small coterie of those who have an obsession with Clinton.
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    Dude, you got it way backwards!! The Blame Game is the Democrat stock-in-trade. They have the patent on it!! They invented it! From the "race card" to labeling people as "homophobic" if they do not believe in giving civil rights to unnatural unhealthy sexual practices, the Democrats have led the charge on "the blame game" from the get go.

    But, I digress, since you say you aren't into the blame game. The real question then is: what is YOUR plan???

    What "better way" do you suggest?? What is the way out of the mess we are in, all around the world??

    Do you think sacrificing Bush on the alter, cutting out his heart and then eating it while he watches you with his dying breaths is going to solve anything??? Think again, brother.

    It is YOU who are possessed with witch hunts, making scape goats, and sacrificing others so you may continue you delusional belief that you have dodged the bullet that blew the head off some other poor sucker.

    If you hang Bush you will have blood-thirsty extremist Islamist crazies in your house looking to decapitate anyone who even smells like a threat to their view of sharia, Islamic law. Do you know how sharia views homosexuality?? Do you have any idea what they do to homosexuals?? As they feed you alive to wild pigs you will be weeping bitter tears, crying out for the "bad old days" of the Bush administration.

    But, hey, don't believe me. Find out the hard way. Your choice.


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    hey, look everyone!!!! It's more broken-record rhetoric from our favorite scitzo preacher man!!!

    he wants we PatsFans bloggers to come up with all the solutions, and keeps playing the victim card, insisting we all want Bush tortured and executed. ... his heart eaten, in fact!!! lol... it's his wierd way of admitting his favorite administration are liars and frauds...

    of course, he also wants us all to come together and put aside our differences and live with bipartisan love and harmony if we ever hope to move forward... what will it be in an hour or so, back to the wrath-speech, coated with "you'll find out the hard way" scary doom??

    you're beyond irrelevant... and every charge you levy upon your opponents are things you yourself are guilty of time and time again... especially the "reading comprehension" claim... i've yet to see a single poster here come to your aid or support your wacko righty religious ideology ....

    might wanna find a different posting strategy... your current one, repeated ad nauseum, isn't working...
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    Oh, pound sand, Pressy. If I'm so "irrelevant" you're sure wasting a lot of time on me!! LOL :D

    Ditto for my posting strategy: it's working well enough to get your insulting ad hominem character on the record for all to see. :D


    "Sometimes when you win, you lose." -- What Dreams May Come.


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    Of course, you ignore the fact that people like you and other conservatives are still trying to blame Clinton, even though he hasn't been office for years. Plus, it's strange your counting on Sandy Berger, who agreed to take a lie detector test, to prove something that has not been proven even during the investigation by the Republican Congress.

    Now, as far as the Democratic plan, it's quite simple. The Democrats and the bipartisan committee that reported to Bush, recommend much more emphasis on regional diplomacy to see if we can other countries to close their borders, help track down terrorists, and stabilize the region. The Democrats by and large favor a phased withdrawal and no increase in troops, but they're not going to vote against funding because that could endanger the troops, who Bush will most likely leave in Iraq under any circumstances.
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    you started this, not me.... you earned the attention you're getting... and it's important that your drivel be held accountable...

    again, you earned it with your wise mouth...
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    Who's complaining? :D You look more the fool you are with each post you make.

    I "started" this??? In your dreams, Pressy. You guys want to lynch Libby, then you want to lynch Bush, Cheney, and everyone else who stands in your way to your dream-world. You refuse to realize that the more you harbor vengeance in YOUR heart the deeper into the do-do you go.

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    You miss the point: nobody is "blaming" Clinton. It is what it is. No one has to say what Clinton did or did not do. He already knows, and sooner or later everyone else will, too. I'm simply saying that it is totally fruitless to pursue this game of "gotcha" because for each one that one side gets, the other side will retaliate.

    So, the way you describe the approach to Iraq sounds reasonable, provided both Dems and Repubs work together. If one or the other shuts down, then there will be problems, very serious problems.

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    The gotcha game was played under the Republican Congress when Clinton was president and now I'm afraid it's the Democrats turn. What goes around comes around. It is interesting though that the Democrats in their ethics bill, to get bipartisan support, did not make it retroactive, so the recent crooks like Cunningham will continue to get his $64K taxpayer funded pension and the original proposal, which would have suspended pensions for 21 different acts of unethical behavior, was reduced to only 5 different acts. I guess that's bipartisanship!

    Bush is not and has never been willing to work with Democrats, and the last Republican Congress excluded Democrats from every turn. It was one of the most partisan Congresses in a long time, probably since the Democrats of late '60s. This group of Democrats claims they'll be more bipartisan and it's a good sign that some Republicans, even conservatives, have been extending an olive branch. But, Bush's surge strategy is very much a go-it-alone approach, so we might see a bipartisan Congress at odds with the President.
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    No, brother. That's why I mentioned Nixon ages ago. This whole political assassination jag started when the Hard Left infiltrated the Dems and the media and then went after Nixon. Pooh, pooh all you want, but that's the truth.

    Why else would there be *any* legs at all to going after a man -- a *very popular president*, young, "dashing" -- who had illicit sex in the White in the 1990s when Kennedy did it with impunity in the 60s?? I'll tell you why, just what you're trying to say: Karma. Because the Left went after Nixon and knocked him off, the Right had the capital to go after Clinton.

    (Actually, it was supposed to be Teddy Kennedy, but Teddy saved everyone the trouble by falling down drunk during his aborted presidential bid in 1980.)

    It is essential to know when the law of Karma starts, with what actions and why.


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