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  1. Disco Volante

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    How Many Sacks Each LT Gave Up (Because it interests me) - WalterFootball.com Forums

    1. Ryan Clady, Denver, 0.5 sack
    2. Michael Roos, Tennessee, 1 sack PRO BOWLER
    3-T. Tony Ugoh, Indianapolis, 2 sacks (Started 11 games)
    3-T. Tra Thomas, Philadelphia, 2 sacks
    3-T. Jared Gaither, Baltimore, 2 sacks* (Missed first quarter of Philadelphia game)
    7. Jake Long, Miami, 2.5 sacks
    8-T. Marcus McNeill, San Diego, 3 sacks* (13 games)
    8-T. Chris Samuels, Washington, 3 sacks* (12 games)
    8-T. Jordan Gross, Carolina, 3 sacks* (15 games) PRO BOWLER
    8-T. Jammal Brown, New Orleans, 3 sacks* (Missed 1 game)
    8-T. Todd Weiner, Atlanta, 3 sacks* (Started 10 games and appeared in 15)
    13-T. Joe Thomas, Cleveland, 3.5 sacks PRO BOWLER
    13-T. Walter Jones, Seattle, 3.5 sacks* (12 games) PRO BOWLER
    15-T. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, NY Jets, 4 sacks
    15-T. Bryant McKinnie, Minnesota, 4 sacks* (11 games)
    15-T. Max Starks, Pittsburgh, 4 sacks* (10 starts)
    18. Brandon Albert, Kansas City, 4.5 sacks* (Missed 1 game)
    19. Levi Jones, Cincinnati, 5.5 sacks* (10 games)
    20. Mike Gandy, Arizona, 6.25 sacks
    21-T. Chad Clifton, Green Bay, 6.5 sacks* (missed 1 game)
    21-T. David Diehl, NY Giants, 6.5 sacks
    23. Flozell Adams, Dallas, 7.25 PRO BOWLER
    24-T. Khalif Barnes, Jacksonville, 7.5 sacks
    24-T. Matt Light, New England, 7.5 sacks
    24-T. Kwame Harris, 7.5 sacks* (Started 11, appeared in 13)
    27. Donald Penn, Tampa Bay, 8 sacks
    28. Joe Staley, San Francisco, 8.5 sacks
    29. Jeff Backus, Detroit, 9.25 sacks
    30. John St. Clair, Chicago, 9.75 sacks
    T-31. Duane Brown, Houston, 11.5 sacks
    T-31. Jason Peters, Buffalo, 11.5 sacks (13 games) PRO BOWLER
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    Could the team invest in upgrading the OL this offseason? Light gave up 7.5 sacks, and we all know that Kaczur is a turnstile at RT.

    This stat could be misleading as Cassel had a few bad games at the start where he held onto the ball way too long.

    But, I do anticiapte a draft pick being used to shore up the right side, at least.
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    This seems kind of silly to me.


    Quarterbacks are just as responsible for sacks as their lineman are. Theres a lot of evidence that quarterbacks are more responsible than the lineman (when QBs change teams, the QB's sack rates tend to stay similar).


    That, and theres no description of how they're deciding responsibility. Did the LT get beat, or was there supposed to be TE there? Was he supposed to pick up the blitzing OLB, or was that the RB's job? Was he supposed to slide in and help out the guard?

    The patriots regressing from 21 sacks to 47 had very little to do with the line, and everything to do with Cassel's pocket awareness starting at awful and progressing to average.

    Poor statistics are worse than no statistics.
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    You beat me to the punch.
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    To be fair, Cassel didn't seem to realise he had a blindside for this first 6 or so games. Also, according to footballoutsiders, Light and Mankins were absolutely dominant in the run game.
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    I guess this is a chance to bring up my "I wanted Clady" refrain.... Anyway, I don't know that I'd blame Light for that many sacks because of the chaos of the first few weeks.
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    This topic wasn't to highlight Light for being lower on the list, rather an overall look at the league.

    I always highlight Pats players in red whenever I post league wide stats.
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    yes,

    Plus the other unknown is the quality of the DE's and other rushers that each LT was facing when the sack occurred.

    It's an interesting comparison, but there are so many other things to consider before it becomes a valuable statistic.

    Thanks for posting this, though, as it's another piece of the puzzle. :)
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    I liked Clady a lot too - but it's a pointless refrain given how Mayo did.
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    Ehhh.... I'm only saying it in fun (as you point out, it's not as if taking Mayo was a bad decision), and I'd still take Clady because I think the LT is more important than an ILB, and this year looks as if there will be plenty of linebackers to choose from. It does point out just how much the team was hosed by the loss of that pick, though, since it's at least theoretically possible that the front office could have maneuvered in such a way as to get both players without giving up what they would consider to be "too much".
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    What some fail to mention is that if we had a TE that could block worth a damn it would help Light and Kaczurs poor showing against the blitz or even a fierce pass rush

    Thomas and Watson blow donkey crap when it comes to blocking at the line - God how I miss Dan Graham
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    Speaking of Mayo, I hope San Fran is happy with Staley :D
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    Light's stats are misleading. Or has everyone forgotten all the threads going on and on how Cassel held onto the ball too long or how he had no pocket presense or how he didn't know how to check off receivers. Cassel went from a disaster to a very good good QB by learning on the job. One of the things that suffered because of his learning was that he was sacked a lot while he was getting used to the speed of real NFL games. I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of the sacks Light gave up were Cassel's fault, not Light's.
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    which means that i wouldnt be surprised if 6 of the 7.5 sacks were in the first 6 games
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    As a big Cassel supporter, I agree with the spirit of this assessment.
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    Care to back that one up, muchacho?
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    The sacks by RT would be intersting too. I think another first year starter in Denver led the way (Ryan Harris).
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    Is Jordan Gross a UFA this offseason? I'd take a long look...
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    Mike Shanahan and his staff have always been fantastic at developing great linemen though. It seems that every year Denver have a top-notch O-line regardless of who is actually starting.

    We will see how they do now that Shanahan is gone, but nonetheless kudos to Clady. That's truly an impressive achievement.
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