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Rupert Murdoch is the Problem in America

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  1. IcyPatriot

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    Yup ... this is the conclusion of Bill Keller NYT executive editor

    Keller on Murdoch - On Media - POLITICO.com

    Now if only Americans could think for themselves of what a wonderful country it would be right Louis?
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    God Bless Rupert Murdoch for throwing a Fox monkey wrench in the works. Do I buy everything I see on his network? Ummm no. Do I love the counterbalance for the eurocentric progressive press that nbc, especially, but cbs and disney too, present? Hells yeah!!!

    And Judge Napolitano and Stossel are dead nuts on. Watch them and learn.
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    Most have an angle or agenda when it comes to the news. For the most part anyway. The key is to get the proper balance, as well as to educate yourself on the issue(s), and then make a judgement for yourself. I laugh when people who have been slanting news for decades point a finger at Fox as being the problem. As if it's they, and only they, who pimp a certain perspective when reporting. The only thing the existence of FOX has done is level the playing field.
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    Not really. Fox is unique as a "media" outlet, as it essentially advances and directly promotes the interests of the Republican party. There is no analogue for a similar outlet that relentlessly promotes the interests of the Democratic party.

    If you're looking for GOP talking points, than Fox News is a terrific source. If you care about educating yourself on issues and current events, I'd suggest looking elsewhere.
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    To narrow America's problems (even media problems) to Rupert Murdoch is a joke. But then again, it's just an editorial.
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    For years we had to sit each night and listen to Brokaw, Jennings, Rather and Cronkite, what they fed us was all we knew now we hear everything, now we know all the little things the Cronkite crowd didn't want to tell us and that has driven the Left Wing Media and it's followers insane.

    Internet
    Drudge
    Cable News
    FOX NEWS
    Talk Radio
    Freedom Of The Press
    Freedom Of Speech (for everybody)
    All of the above has ended the days of The Left Wing Media controlling our lives and our thoughts, that scares the sh!t out of Loonville.

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    I haven't read the whole thing -- b/c I'm not sure there's any point -- but in the intial post he was cited as saying "to some extent" -- that means the Murdoch isn't the problem, he's part of it.

    That's debatable, too, but it's very different and at least more reasonable.
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    Chris Matthews
    Ed Schultz
    Lawrence O'Donnell
    Rachael Maddow

    You're kidding, those are all DNC operatives.
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    Nah.

    If you ever watched their programming, you'd know better.
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    So you think they're down the middle?
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    Hey I got some Ocean Front property in Arizona, I would love too sell you!

    Fear is not learning, If I know one thing that is that all of them lie(NBC,ABC,CNN,FOX,CBS) to push their agenda.....

    All of them are ran by the same people, rich and powerful.....the same people that run our country......strange aye???

    The sheep flock in heards to Fox, cause if there is one thing in life that has stood the test of time, its FEAR! and people eat it up like a fat kid loves cake:rocker:

    Your thanking God because you like other liars??? lol this is why we have a problems in USA.... All of them suck and I don't watch any of them, that's the right thing to do! You know how you can tell the lairs?? if they have something to gain(books,TV Ratings), 95% of the time they are liying, little food for thought for ya!

    Now watch, every night everyone of them try to plug their book at then end of their show! Why???? Why does bill o'reilly every night tell us he's #1 in ratings??? WAKE THE **** UP!

    The left is just as bad....their a little more subtle about it though. If your going to lie atleast be good at it and not so blunt like Fox.
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    Of course not, but they've all been vociferous in their criticisms of Obama and the Democrats.
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    Oh, they're too far to the right for you? Look, I can admit I look at things through right leaning eyes but I can't for a minute look at those guys as anything but anti-republican. Which one of them do you think doesn't vote democrat the vast majority of the time?
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    I think he's saying that they're not mere "DNC operatives" given that they regularly criticize Obama and the Dems.

    (Just because you don't fall in line with one party doesn't mean you must be on the other side -- e.g., too far to the right)
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    Dems criticizing dems, or pubs criticizing pubs, while still pimping the political agenda of their "side" isn't an example of impartiality though. If they were criticizing a position, while agreeing with the opposing party, then sure, I'd buy what some of you are selling. That's really not the case though. When a pol/party passes a legislation that embodies their agenda, and some in the press "criticize" it because it didn't embody more of their agenda, it's not impartial. For example, if I say "people criticized BOOOSH on Iraq in Fox" what good is that statement if the criticism was about troop levels, as opposed to the wisdom of invasion as a whole? So diehard leftists/rightists anchors on a station criticizing a lefty/righty pol for not being left/right enough, isn't really the type of criticism that points to unbiased, non agenda driven, impartial reporting.
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    I don't think anybody claimed they're impartial.
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    Point being?
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    ? exactly what I said
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    I love Fox for their counterpoint. Its not that I agree to anything in particular that any of their commentators say. I just love that they are out there saying it. Its an embrace of the first ammendment. They have the guts to go out there every day and piss all over NBC, the New York Times, and the other media. That is the definition of fair and balanced. Not what they say, but the fact they say it in opposition to the progressive traditional media.

    I do faithfully watch the Judge every night at 8.:p


    Fox Business. Judge Napolitano. Freedom Watch. :D

    O'Reilly is a neocon and out of touch. Change the channel and learn.
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    Social Scientist Sees Bias Within

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    If you rely on Fox news you are fool, if you rely on MSNBC you are a fool.. all of this is filtered with a specific agenda, and to rely on one or the other creates brain damage...

    Somewhere in the middle there is some truth.. but it is very hard to find. They want you to know what they want you to know.

    Unfortunately, there are folks on either side of the aisle who believe that they have found the answer on a specifically ideological site..
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    Right on Darryl, and this is why I get all my news exclusively from the PatsFans political forum.
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    Harrys News Service:
    Plain Common Sense, Reality And A Little Touch Of Bigotry To Aggrivate The Saintly Do-Gooders

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    you finally admit it, huh? I guess that means no more complaints about being unfairly criticized for it?
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    Let those among you who are without bigotry cast the first stone.
    From The Book Of Harry
    Chapter 18
    Verse 84
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    As usual, I don't think you know what bigotry is.

    (btw, be careful -- calling people bigots apparently is a violation here)
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    I didn't call anybody a bigot I don't call people names except liberal ass holes in the news, people can call me whatever they want, you should hear what my wife calls me.

    Liberalsim is loaded with racists and bigots but they don't think they are bigots they believe themselves to always be right and if you don't think they are right then you are wrong.

    The blind liberal really believes reality is bigotry, if one of their "protected saints" commits a dastardly bloody vicious crime and somebody like me dares to speak of it I will immediately become the villian the real criminal will go unmentioned, that is The Loon Mindset, the loons reaction to this crime is "shhhhhhhhh"

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    I hate Jets fans. There's only one i can tolerate, and he's family. All others are evil P'sOS.

    Other than that I'm not bigoted.

    ..Oh wait, I forgot preachers, witches, gurus, and holy men.
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    You still don't seem to know what bigotry, and as usual your post is mostly fantasyland assertions along with your daily lament of persecution. However, you at least got one part right (bolded) -- just like your beloved conservatives, many libruls are racist; racism isn't the domain of any one party or political viewpoint. (Whether one party, or political point of view, has a higher % of racists or bigots is another story -- but I don't have any hard #s at hand, and I am confident you'd never be able to offer any, so there's no reason to go down that path here.)

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