Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by shmessy, Nov 9, 2012.
This stuff writes itself:
Rove: Obama won 'by suppressing the vote' - POLITICO.com
Obama won because of a number of reasons.
Reason # 1 Obamacare - Free health care. When Obama had the Senate and House after 2008 he was already thinking about 2012. Even if his supporters didnt have employment by 2012, they would still be getting free heath care if he was reelected. Scalia upholding Obamacare was huge because it forced Romney to oppose it.
Reason # 2 Citizenship for Illegals - The move now will be for full citizenship for an estimated 11 million illegal aliens as payback for their support. Obama knew that by passing the Dream Act they he would clinch the Latino vote and he did by 70%.
Romney adamantly opposed both and had nothing to give but the promise of jobs.
Rove is morphing into an azzclown, but he does have more twitter followers..
He has got a lot of 'splaining to do after squandering the 300 million dollars he raised and spent on lost causes... Citizens United on Steroids... what an azzclown.
Wow, I think your reasons are quite far fetched. It must be tough to always be wrong.
Denials continue, the reason why Romney lost was because of the cretans who ran their mouths about Gays, Minorities, Immigrants and Women. When your base comprises 72% fo the american population, then there is no room for error..
Obama won most of the vote of gays, minorities, immigrants and women.. when you have dudes like Mourdock and Akin running their mouth along with the immigration hysterics, and those who believe that Gays are ruining america you are doomed to fail. Then factor in the disenfranchisement of women.. the train wreck is coming.
I personally favor the hate that has been eminating from the predictable folks, as long as they keep running their mouth it is only a matter of time before the Republican Party becomes a trivia question..
Liberals riding in the wagon now out number the Republicans pulling the wagon. A train wreck is coming for sure. Like I stated before, the clock is ticking and Obama has 24 months to get the economy off life support. And, if you think that the economy is bad today, just wait until you see these next few years.
You say that like liberals do not belong to the middle class. We are doing our share of the pulling and conservatives are doing their share of the wagon riding. You need to come to grips with that fact.
Oh, and your doom and gloom predictions have been shown to be wrong over and over again, why should the American people believe in your cries of "wolf?"
wrong, obama won because the majority repudiated your ultra conservative ideology. I was just watching faux news there still living in the same alternative universe too.
Look as part of the Alinsky handbook. You accuse others of doing what your doing.
UN advisors were shocked to see no voter ID was practiced in lot of the country.
another example was accusing republicans of politisizing Benghazi.When they were the ones throwing out the lies about a obsure movie to begin with for political purposes.
They just won't accept the fact that in the real world, red staters are the takers.
Obama won because America is turning into a "Pop Culture Shlt Hole"
As somebody who rid himself of cable TV because of a deep hatred of pop culture and reality TV, I would have to disagree with your in-depth analysis.
I read this somewhere else, Turd Blossom said that neg adds run by obama suppressed the vote. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Blossom must be desperate to find an excuse for blowing 300 million dollars. If doesn't his next job could be saying "do you fries with that"?
When you tell people you're going to turn $350+ mill into an even bigger pile of money but, it turns out you turned it into $350 + mill of toilet paper, you need a story to tell.
Otherwise, when you ask them for $500+mill, the next time around they may not be so forthcoming.
Really? Who's pulling whom????
From a friend in New York yesterday: (Note - this is CLEARLY tongue-in-cheek, unlike the ACTUAL threat from the chromosome-challenged Governor of Texas last year).
"From the Blue States;
Dear Red States:
We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've
decided we're leaving.
We in New York intend to form our own country and we're taking the
other Blue States with us.
In case you aren't aware that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon,
Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of
We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially
to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America
To sum up briefly:
You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Roger Mourdock and Todd
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
You get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to try to make the red states
finally pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian
Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of
With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the
country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92%
of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can
serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of
the high tech industry, most of the US low sulphur coal, all living
redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools
plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese
Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US
mosquitoes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush
Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by
a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death
penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that
Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you
are people with higher morals then we lefties.
We're taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in
Citizens of the Enlightened States of America
Excuses are like a-holes, everyone has one....
Yeah he won because of Obamacare, yet its very unpopular due to Fox News and the right-wing nut jobs, you get cancer? Sucks to be you! Your dying because you can't afford meds? Sucks to be you! He didn't win because of Obamacare....if anything he lost votes because of it....you can't make this stuff up lol, what will people think of next, He won because of a storm? :singing:
Now immigration might of played a part though but I don't think that's why Mexican voters voted for him, I think they voted against Romney not voted for Obama....IMO I just think Romney didn't do well because of who he is and what he's not...
Word.... On another note they get all the old FEMA trailers from Katrina, the ones Brownie failed to deliver. They can move right into texas, theres plenty of uninhabited land since Gov Perry cut the budget for fire fighters and half the state burned down last summer.
People also have to remember that Romney just outright did a terrible job with "relating" to the general population. The middle class, most of use fall under that catagory, this is a place that Romney has never experienced in his life. I think he's a very smart man and I admire many things about him including his great business mind and financial success but as a president... not so much and even most republicans agree with that.
Winning votes is basically winning the hearts and minds of the people you appeal to. Thats what the republicans have to do a better job of. They need to stop shooting themselves in the foot with the stupid "rape" comments and bogus stories and focus on what really matters.
Perry, Gingrich et al also did a very good job of dehumanizing him.. not sure he ever really recovered from a bruising primary fight..
I think they are incapable of winning hearts and minds it at this time because many of them Really beleive in what they're saying. Murdoch and aiken aren't just speaking for themselves, there are a lot of people in those states that think that way. Over the last 20-25 years the right has brainwashed itself. For example the people over at faux where shocked that romney lost they believe the bogus poll numbers they broadcast showing romney ahead. And i tuned in this morning and they're still in denial. And lets not forget the 'internal polling data' mits handlers came up with, they believed it also.
I think you have a future doing commentary for Fox News.
Scalia voted against the Affordable Health Care Act..
Yeah, he got the wrong judge it was roberts. So he'd fit right in.
The only denial I see here is from Progressives who really think they "won" the election.
Um, you won the election for the Presidency with significantly less votes than in the last election and with a significantly smaller percentage of the overall vote. You won 2 seats in the Senate and a few seats in the House. The House is still firmly ours FILLED with Tea Party candidates.
Did I mention that you have less Governor's seats too? Well, you do.
So, what's your net gain....nothing. You have exactly what you had when you started the election, divided government.
Hey, but enjoy the delusion. The mid terms will set you straight.
So what you're saying is that we won the election? Damn straight. Four more years!
How does anything you write even matter?
You think Antonin Scalia voted for Obamacare on the Supreme Court.
This Presidential election was a victory for facts and data over delusion and ignorance.
Hilarious irony aside, I wouldn't suck that pacifier too hard, the only reason the GOP didn't lose the House is because of redistricting:
Pennsylvanians and Americans Voted For a Democratic U.S. House
It probably matters a lot since the election result was 50% in favor vs 48% not in favor.
Let's not act as if it was a convincing victory here shmessy.
Electoral votes are irrelevant in a poll of public opinion.
Gore won the popular vote.
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