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  1. MNF

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    I think the whole league will be rooting for this kid. He goes from being a top 50 pick to being diagnosed with lymphoma and seeing his dream of playing in the NFL pretty much disappear until the Pats pick him in the 5th.

    My brother was diagnosed with lymphoma a number of years ago and I know the emotional rollercoaster ride the entire treatment phase could be. My brother is doing well and I'm sure Marcus can do the same! Looking forward to watching the new Pat when he gets better. I'm getting emotional just thinking about. Good luck Marcus and welcome to the Patriots!
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    Hope he's ok and goes on to have a hall of fame career here.
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    By far my favorite pick of the draft. Hoping this guy can get over his disease and develop into a stud. Either way he's going to make a helluva binky.
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    How can you not want a mammoth offensive lineman with the last name Cannon on your team? :D

    When I suggested yesterday that the Patriots build an impenetrable wall full of Goliath sized men for the offensive line I didn't know BB was scouting the boards looking for my opinion.

    I feel important now ;).
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    Ausbackichick???..:D
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    my favorite pick of this Draft hope he goes on to be a all pro
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    The lines have already started.. imagine once some cunning linguist gets a hold of them. "The Patriots are rolling out the heavy artillery.. the 358 pound cannon."
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    Can he play from day one?
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    ....just a personal note regarding this......I had Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma in 1987,when i was 37.
    The initial 3-treatment chemo,that Cannon is going through seemed to work,however,my cancer returned a year later.The next step is an autologous bone-marrow transplant with a 3-day blast of more powerfull chemo.

    After 30 days in isolation,waiting for my immune system to grow back,I have been cancer-free for more than 20 yrs.I was 6' 3" and 165 lbs. and I lost 50 lbs during treatment.....However,Cannon,is much younger and in better shape,so if the initial chemo works,he could be back to normal in 3 or 4 months.

    I'll be praying for him
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    I thought they said his growth was not cancerous.
    that guy loses 50 lbs, he won't even notice it.

    anyway, hoprfully it's not as dire as some stories on here, although I find it odd he'd drop so far if it wasn't serious in any way.
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    My wife was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma in 2002. She had 6 rounds of chemo, and continued to work while getting treatments. She felt sick for a couple of days after each chemo treatment and lost a little hair, but other than that, she was fine. She's been cancer free for 8 1/2 years now. Every case is different, but with what they can do in the oncology field these days is amazing. His chances of beating this should be very good, and could possibly be back to normal in a relatively short period of time. Our prayers are with him and his family.
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    Wow thanks for the info. And I'm glad to hear that you were cured by the treatment!
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    I had Hodgkins Lymphoma at age 23. 6 months of chemo every other week, 4 months of daily radiation... Battling cancer puts *everything* in a new perspective. And you find out who your true friends are very quickly. IMO, Your outlook on life and your overall attitude about life and fighting for what is truly important is as important as the medicines used.

    My most sincere wishes for a quick and full recovery go out to Marcus, and he is without a doubt my favorite draft pick this year.
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    I thank God for those who could post about themselves and loved ones surviving, thanks for sharing.

    For Mr. Cannon, he's got a three phase challenge ahead of him:

    -- Phase One is to endure the cancer treatment and get this licked up front. From all I've read he should be finished sometime mid-Summer with the treatments, which in a "normal" season would be the beginning of Training Camp, allowing him to be PUP'd or IR'd.

    -- Phase Two is to regain his strength and get his conditioning back, this is were Italia's weight loss story gets interesting.
    ---- Cannon has struggled with his weight while at TCU, for all that he's very light on his feet for a 358 lb man. The problem on paper is he's too stiff for what NE has asked of it's offensive guards, for example: Light, Mankins, Vollmer, and now Solder are all players NE drafted with the expectation that they would be able to win a starter's job early in their careers. Each of them scored 4.5 second or better short shuttles and 7.5 second or better 3-cone drills. For men in excess of 300 lbs, there are a lot of linebackers who wish they could do as well. Cannon scored 4.97 and 8.09 respectively. To put his numbers in perspective, two other huge roadgraders NE drafted are comparable - Robinson-Randall (333 lbs) and O'Callaghan (344 lbs), while both started briefly for NE, neither lasted very long with the team. So part of the strength & conditioning question for Cannon is what playing weight is he going to be asked to maintain? The more weight he can shed (without losing strength) to get closer to the other NE O-linemen the better (Solder is the next heaviest at 319).
    ---- Unlike Robinson-Randall and O'Callaghan, Cannon has a distinct advantage - each of them scored a 26" vertical jump, showing pretty average leg drive - Cannon scored 30.5" putting him in company with where Scar likes to see his starters. Impressive at his greater weight. He's also quicker over 10 yards then either of the other two, putting him right at the lower limit of what NE starters run over that distance. So he's showing some ability to pick them up and put them down, he just has trouble checking his momentum to change direction. If Cannon can take off enough weight to shave a couple tenths of a second off his agility times, he gets down near Kaczur numbers, good enough to start for five seasons. An additional benefit to losing weight, he can get lower in his stance, helping him 'fire out' easier, and win in the leverage battle.
    ---- I don't know if 320 is a reasonable playing weight for him, but shedding 38 lbs would do wonders for his agility and wouldn't hurt his leg drive and 10-split speed one bit. It's a possible silver lining to the cancer if the treatment does anything to aid weight loss - as long as it doesn't cost him anymore in conditioning and health then absolutely necessary.

    -- Phase Three is win a job on the NEP.

    One of the observations I came away with from this draft is BB shopped for players who, in a lockout shortened off-season, are less likely to need as much development time. RBs, a CB familier with Al Groh's branch of the NE defense, a blocking TE, a couple Special Teams kids, and a clipboard holder QB - all quick turn around times in the NFL scheme of things. Solder at LT is the guy who has the longest learning curve (other then the QB, but another issue entirely).

    With BB apparently planning to be handicapped in rookie development, taking a kid whom you know will just be starting to get his feet under him mid-Summer suggests a longer termed perspective to Cannon's readiness. My guess is Cannon is IR'd when the season starts, putting him in the hands of the Trainers and the S&C staff while allowing him in the meeting rooms for chalk talk and film study. This gives him nearly a full year to get his body healed up and get himself conditioned into his new playing weight and the diet & nutrition practices he'll need to maintain himself. The most optimistic time line puts him on PUP and eligible to begin practicing mid-season, perhaps in a "normal" season, but I don't see the advantage to trying to do that in the current environment.

    God bless Mr. Cannon, he's already sent you to a pretty good team for starters.
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    wouldn't you rather have the guy able to practice with the team, for conditioning if nothing else?

    I mean, we'll all have to see what condition he's in come sept, and how the roster shakes out, but if he's in the shape they expect him to be in I don't see IR helping anybody.
    I'd say pup at worst, if they're really roster crunched.
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    The success rate on this type of cancer is very good. However, the poster who noted that each person has a different experience is right. Here's hoping he makes it through the treatment and doesn't need to look back. Returning to full health is top priority now. I, too, love this pick, and my thoughts are with Mr. Cannon. Welcome aboard!
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    How many rookies do you know who miss OTAs, Training Camp, and pre-season, then get three weeks of practice mid-season when there's not as much hitting in practice and go on to win a roster spot? Give his body time to recover from the poisons they treat him with, then put the conditioning screws to him and use the delay to set him up for the long term.
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    I loved the pick! On Thursday I was thinking that I hoped Cannon would be picked, and let to recover!

    Another great pick by BB! Clearly saw that Cannon has amazing value for a 5th, and knows that MC has the desire to play and the desire to recover and beat his illness!

    If Cannon can beat the illness, a D-Lineman is a piece of p**s!
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    Bill Belichick is still undecided where Cannon will play and the other prospects.


    He did say this though.




    "I’m not sure exactly what’s best for anybody. I assume we’ll play (Ryan) Mallett at quarterback, but the rest of them, we’ll see how it goes."



    I love BB's careless side:)

    :cool:
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