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  1. Wolfpack

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    "So you’re all for like, yay, freedom, and all this stuff. And yay, like pursuit of happiness. You know what would make me happy? Free birth control." - Unidentified student, Bradley University in Illinois

    "You’re looking for free stuff you don’t have to pay for? Vote for the other guy, that’s what he’s all about, OK? That’s not, that’s not what I’m all about." - Mitt Romney
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    Wow, Romney stood up to an unidentified student. That's real impressive.

    At any rate, glad it's easy to sucker punch Romney and draw him into this conversation, since women by large numbers support contraception as badly as former Republican Presidential candidate Bob Dole needs Viagra.
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    #87 Jersey


    Deflection ... again ... :ugh:
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    Free birth control pills for all, especially self entitled brats whining about how everything should be given to them on a silver platter? Please, oh please, make that your guy's platform this election cycle. Pretty please.
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    "Planned Parenthood? We're going to get rid of that." Mitt Romney

    Remove life saving medical tests and treatments to 3 million men, women and teenagers, every year, who would otherwise be unable to attain such care?

    Please, oh please, make that your guy's platform this election cycle. Pretty please.

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR08_vFinal.pdf
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    He meant government funding for the abortion mill otherwise known as Planned Parenthood, and that's another winning platform for him so I certainly hope he includes it as well. Nice to see we agree on something.
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    i like free stuff, to bad in america we might actually have to pay a private company monies to vote in our democracy, if the republicans establish their world view on us all.
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    gotta give romney credit on this one

    usually he'd just ask the student where the student is from, and then compliment that state's trees

    but this time he had a spine

    well done mitt
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    doesn't matter who wins

    it's always going to be the same in the US
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    He's a kid probably. And, good news, I think women's medical care will be an important issue in this election cycle. The polls I've seen show the gender gap has grown since Republican men have been debating women's reproductive rights. I don't think you realize, Wolfie, that you're a minority now. Or maybe you do, given what appears to be bitterness towards "self-entitled brats." Is Romney a self-entitled brat? During his campaign against Kennedy, his wife said he had to "chip away at his stocks" to make ends meet and that they "didn't even have wall-to-wall carpeting" while in college.
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    It is always nice to have the source to make sure that it has not been edited by a news outlet or blog with an agenda..

    Could this be one of those viral emails, as the Web Site Scared Monkeys has the exact same thing... except it is from a women in Peoria.. I will list my source to avoid confusing thoughts..

    http://scaredmonkeys.com/

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    I saw this on the news last night. Video is here:

    Romney To Contraception Heckler: If You Want Free Stuff, Vote For Obama | RealClearPolitics

    Good for Romney.

    Look at what that deadbeat zombie says. "freedom this, freedom that....give me my free birth control dammit". What a country we've become. Food Stamp USA.

    Most of you already know that I think our country is pretty much doomed. Be it by financial tsunami, the exploding welfare state (corporate and social), or through our lack of personal accountability, our future isn't looking to good. This woman is a prime example of what's wrong. She wants her "free" stuff dammit. Stuff that she thinks is "free", but in reality the rest of us end up paying for. Deadbeat nation is alive and well.
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    I think she's far from the norm.
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    That's exactly how I felt too. Politicians always just gutlessly back down and avoid the question in these types of situations. Easier to meekly back down and fall into politi-speak than to say something that some people may actually disagree with.

    Funny how everyone always says they want strong decisive leaders, but then when a politician acts in a stong, decisive way, their opposition attacks them for it.
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    telling people to vote for the other guy is "owning"?
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    So is she a woman from Peoria or a self entlitled liberal student???
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    I don't. I wouldn't go so far as to call her mainstream, but her sentiment is held by a sizable chunk of the population. Probably more so now, than at any point in our history. In my opinion at least. I see people that think and feel like her everyday. I'm not sure where you're from, what you do, or what type of people you tend to have interaction with, but in metropolitan Boston where I am, she's a dime a dozen.
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    I think that woman was a plant from the Romney campaign to make Romney look more principled...or something.
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    Sizable, sure, but I'm a bit skeptical how much things have changed over time. Whenever I read anything historical, I'm struck by how often the same things we complain about now were also complained about then -- back in the good ole days.

    I'm from Boston but moved to the west coast years ago. Also switched professions recently, going from M&A to runing my own company. The one thing the move confirmed for me is how absurd two political ploys are -- both "class warfare" and the notion that "real Americans" are in the heartland / south.
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    In todays day and age of scripted politics, that's not only possible, but it's probably likely.
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    The welfare system has shurnk since the welfare reform of 1996. I dont know what you guys are on but im seeing the old ”welfare queens” myth that makes ignorant people think all welfare recipents abuse the system.
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    I was talking with my 18 yr old nephew and 2 of his friends last weekend and couldn't believe the stuff coming out of their mouths.

    Seems like young'uns today have this strange belief that they shouldn't have to work "really, really hard in life" and feel pressure to do this or that. They were talking about free higher education, and free this and that. I don't know what has happened that young adults desire an easy life and openly express a lack of desire to work hard.

    I had to just tell them, "I hope you guys change your attitudes, because you're all in for a rude awakening if you don't". One of them said, "well, pretty soon we'll running the country and we'll change it".

    I just asked them, "Who do you think is going to pay for all your free stuff?"

    You can't just make things free without the $$ to fund it. But alas, I was once young and very liberal.
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    With record numbers on food stamps, entitlements, and recieving government assistance of some kind, I think things have changed quite a bit.

    I work in subsidized housing. I work with Metro Boston Housing, the local Housing Authority, and with HUD based MHFA Section 8 contracted subsidies. The system is rife with waste, abuse, and gross inefficiency. The welfare system has not shrunk. The welfare system doesn't consist of a singular program that was reformed 16 years ago. There are well over 100 different federal assistance, subsidy, welfare programs/policies that account for hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer funded handouts. Then of course there's the handouts that exist at the state and local level as well. Freeloader USA.
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    Today's generation is far more deadbeat and hand out oriented than yours or mine. Without getting into the many reasons why, one thing to consider is that younger people tend to be more naive, and less mature about the realities of life. At young ages like theirs, it's common to think that stuff should be "free" since in their personal lives itt always has been for the most part. It's not until you start having to work for a living, that you start to realize what personal responsibility, and accountability is all about. At least in a very general sense.
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    Hah, so when dumb people too poor to buy birth control get pregnant, who is going to foot the bill Mr Romney?

    The government is going to pay either way. Ever wonder why insurance companies cover it in the first place?

    Cause birth control saves money.

    Conservatives don't seem to understand the idea of paying a little to save a lot. Probably the same type of guy that avoids maintenance on his car then whines when he gets expensive break downs.
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    That isn't an issue that's limited to people's character. It's also not necessarily a bad thing, if people who needed assistance weren't getting it. Lots of people could have used assistance in the past -- it wasn't a testament to their character that they didn't get it.
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    So let me get this straight.

    You find the "system" rife with waste, abuse and gross inefficiency and yet you have no problem working with it, capitalizing on it and making a living from it?

    Have I got that right?
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    I saw this point made the other day and I'll use it in here. Using your logic of course.

    Since exercise helps keep people healthy, and healthier people cost us less in health care costs, shouldn't the government pay for my gym membership? Afterall, by working out, I "save" people money don't I?

    Gym memberships save money.

    We're talking about the magnitude. Look at it this way. The Food Stamp Act was passed in 1964, and had 350,000 recipients. Last year there were something like 45 million people collecting food stamps. For me, it's not so much the existence of the program. It's the sheer magnitude of it.
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    I think you're getting away from what I was commenting on.

    I agree that there is waste and that food stamps and other programs probably are too large. I don't think that's simply an indictment of the recipients' character, particularly relative to people's character in the past.
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    No, you haven't got that right. Part of my job is managing property that I do not personally own, but is managed by our office. Some of the units we manage in our office are tied to those programs. They've been that way since before I took over here. The section 8 contracts span 30 years.

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