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    There is no doubt that there is tension between both coaches and their clubs and I wish them the best, but if they both got the boot, which one do you think would have a better chance of winding up in NE? Hell, even throw in which one you;d rather have back (even though most of us, if not all would love to see them both back!)

    I'll say Romeo. Been in the NFL all this time and we could definately use him!
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    I think it depends if Josh McDaniels is going to be the next big thing in the NFL or not. If he left, I could see Brady lobbying for Charlie to return. Do you think BB would just dump Dean Pees to make room for Romeo?
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    Bill came right out and said coaching was one of the big issues on defense on WEEI. I wonder if he was more hands on in this game plan.

    Romeo might be a good addition. One focus.

    I'd rather keep Josh as OC, though.
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    Weis, because McDaniels would be a HC somewhere else long before Pees.
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    While both Pees and McDaniels have been spoken of as future head coach candidates, McDaniels is the one that had requests for interviews last season. Add in the success of Cassel and the offense without Brady so far this season, and McDaniels will be the hotter candidate again this coming offseason. That would mean that Weis would be the more likely returnee.

    However, count me as one person who's very happy with the two coordinators currently on staff and who doesn't want to see either former coordinator getting their job back next season.
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    As much as I'd like to agree, I haven't been pleased with Pees. McDaniels has done a hell of a job, but Pees to me, has been very questionable. Maybe its the players, but the secondary has been terrible, the pass rush has been non-exsistent, and 3rd downs seem to be nightmares now.
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    If it was a choice between Romeo and Weis, hands down, Romeo.. While McDaniels might not be as good at strategy, he's a step ahead of Weis as a tactician, though he's still learning.
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    Both were amazing coordinators who, to be frank, have seemed a good deal out of their depth at times as head coaches. I wouldn't mind seeing either return, especially if McD is going to be looked at for HC vacancies again this year. Pees I could take or leave to be honest, but if given the choice I'd prefer Romeo.
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    Giving your coordinator:

    An offense that has gone from the best ever to just 12th in the league to this point.

    A defense that has lost 2 of its best 3 defensive backs, one during the season.

    A defense that has lost 2 of its 4 linebackers, one during the season, and replaced one with a rookie and one with a player who's getting on the field for the first real minutes of his career.

    A defense that is transitioning the 3rd of its 4 linebackers out of the offense and replacing him with a rookie.

    A defense that had drafted a cornerback with the notion of making him a starter, only to see him be lost for the season when he finally got to make his first start.

    A defense that had a 31 year old cornerback that was cut by the Bengals as its #2 cornerback.

    Taking all that into account.... If I told you that defense would only drop 4 slots, from the #4 scoring defense to the #8 scoring defense at the moment, you'd be thrilled out of your mind.

    Like too many people on the board lately, you're overthinking things.
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    Whoops- i misinterpreted your post
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    Nevermind, the poster changed his post....
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    Q1 Who would I rather have back: Charlie
    Q2 Who is most likely to be back: Charlie

    McDaniel is likely to be coaching elsewhere in 2009.

    Romeo will be looking for another coaching job, or even an assistant coaching job. If he take a coordinator position, it would be with the idea of being Head Coach. None of this is a fit for New England. Romeo has more to offer other teams.
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    Josh is a good O coordinator and he will be around here. I'm worried about our D coaching staff and we need to do something to improve our D.
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    Neither one.......you can't go back after leaving the way they did....going out on top after a SB win........it would probably never be the same....both will go onto careers elsewhere.....college or pro....I could see RC going on to coach at a college level....not sure about Charlie...IF he gets fired
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    I don't think Charlie will be fired at ND, but if he were, he'd be the likelier to end up in New England in the event McDaniels got a head gig elsewhere.

    As for our defense, it could be that Pees loses his job. But not to Romeo. Maybe Capers? Why else would Capers come on board?

    I'm not sure Romeo has a great relationship with Belichick. That little tidbit about he and Mangini pointedly ignoring Belichick at the coach's meetings last year was a bit intriguing. We all have colleagues that don't get along, and there are awkward moments when you're "palling" around with one instead of the other, so you can't really read too much into this. Nonetheless, I'd say it's a bit intriguing.
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    If being a genius means "immediately thinking the obvious" then, yeah, we're geniuses :rolleyes:

    I'm rooting for Charlie to make it to next year with his current job although it's not looking too good for him right now.
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    This defense is a veteran defense loaded with on-field coaches. The defensive backfield is not as experienced but stocked with up-and-comers with (now) alot of game time under their belts. DC is not quite the premium job to have on this team as it would be on others.

    No offense to Pees and his staff but I'll bet BB has alot more input in game-planning on that side of the ball than the other.

    There won't be any "Back to The Future" moves concerning Romeo or Charlie.
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    They both left here to go on to what they saw as greener pastures, ie, more money and more importantly EGO. I am the best OC and DC, but that is not enough, I want more; more money, more power, I want to prove I can run the ship myself.

    They have both proven to be miserable failures in their new roles, so I wouldn't want either one of them back.

    Had they both stayed here, the Patriots would have two more Super Bowl wins......................
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    I didn't like that they left either, but can you really blame them? Once upon a time, Bill Belichick dared to leave his job as defensive coordinator after winning two rings with the Giants, in order to pursue a head coaching job with the Browns. He stumbled, got fired, and went back to work for Parcells, but he became a better coach for it. We got ourselves a dynasty in New England because Belichick dared to dream big. So I don't hold it against Weis or Crennel for thinking the same way.

    Now the ratfink Mangina, well, I wouldn't have mind if he didn't do it to join our arch rivals. He can go to hell. ;)
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    Probably Romeo are defense hasn't been the same since 05.
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    "I didn't like that they left either, but can you really blame them? Once upon a time, Bill Belichick dared to leave his job as defensive coordinator after winning two rings with the Giants, in order to pursue a head coaching job with the Browns. He stumbled, got fired, and went back to work for Parcells, but he became a better coach for it. We got ourselves a dynasty in New England because Belichick dared to dream big. So I don't hold it against Weis or Crennel for thinking the same way."

    Right; but some people aren't cut out to be head coaches, THEY KNOW IT, but their ego's won't allow themselves to be talked out of it.

    What is wrong with being a life long OC or DC, staying with a team/organization that you enjoy working for and racking up the Super Bowls like both of them did and would have continued to do.

    I understand all the BS about what you do in that situation, you'd go for the highest paid job too; ah, no I wouldn't, been in that position before and stayed where I was, I loved my job and did not want all the added responsibility, moving to a new city, etc even though it meant more money.

    Money does not drive the bus for everyone; I'd rather love what I do and where I am that go somewhere else for money, just doesn't work for me and judging by both of their track records at the helm, it didn't work for either one of them too............
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    I got that feeling, if USC embarrases ND tonight, it's all over for Charlie.
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    That is true. If a particular job makes you happy, then added responsibility and money may not necessarily make you happier. Monte Kiffin probably loves being DC in TB, even though he's been tempted to leave for a HC job before.
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    I vividly remember posting on here during training camp 2005, when Weis made a visit to Gillette. My post went something along the lines of "I know it sounds crazy, but I have this strange feeling Weis is going to be back with the Pats some day." When he got the big contract the next year, that feeling subsided, but still, funny how things go.
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    RAC all the way for me. i simply more of a need for his services than Weis' at the moment.
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    I find it amazing that Pees and Capers are being blamed instead of applauded for the rcoaching job with the Patriot Defense.

    BB decided he had to rebuild the Defense, and wanted to do it without having a 5-11 season or worse. He told these guys that he was rebuilding and wanted to do it in two years or less, while the Offense was as good as any in the League. And he wanted to CONTINUE Winning while they did it.

    I think thet have suceeded magnificently.

    The number of old vets who have gone over the hill is large: Ty Law, Roman Phifer, Ted Johnson, Willie McGinnest, Rosey Colvin, Jr. Seau, Rodney Harrison. There is only one left and he is almost a backup behind UDFA rookie Guyton. Tedy is is the last connection to the old Defense, when you think about it.

    Thankfully the Defensive line is all superb, young, and have provided the continuity for the transition. Even there, however, Seymour had to come back from a knee and arm injury. Warren has had a few hurts too.

    The foundation for the new Patriots Defense has been laid. Mayo, Woods, Guyton, Meriwether, Sanders, Hobbs, as well as AD, Vrabel; and the defensive linemen Seymour,Wilfork, Warren, LeKevin, Wright, Jarvis along with rookies Wheatley, Willhite, and Crable are a great foundation for a new generation of dominating Defense. This draft you can probably add a S, CB, ILB and OLB to the mix too. By this time next season, the Pat's Defense will be an intimidating one, equivalent to the best the Pats have had this decade, and composed of players able to play together for three to five years or more.
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    I think Charlie needs one more year.. that would give him 5 solid years.. the team tonight looks like it has given up.. I like Charlie and wont mind him back with the Pats if Mcdaniels , who has done a great job this yr leaves..
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