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Harrison: Seymour's "not thrilled" with deal to Raiders | ProFootballTalk.com
I've said it many times and I will say it again. I will miss Seymour this year as will the defense. BB must have a ton of confidence in Brace and Pryor to let this happen. However, it was between him and Wilfork getting to stay with the team next year. Wilfork is younger and Seymour was only able to do his thing BECAUSE Wilfork was doing his job on the D-Line. Wilfork is the anchor and he will get the new contract. We could have kept Seymour this year, took our chances, and lost him for no compensation next year. Or, we could have did what we did and got paid handsomely for it. In our case, we did the latter. If BB AND Rodney think it's a smart move, that's good enough for me.
Now, now.... don't forget the other important part, since we were all assured that Rodney was going to be honest and tell it like it is:
But clearly Rodney knows as well as anyone that Seymour's a fat malcontent who's always injured and way past his prime, so why would he say that?
I love Big Sey as much as anyone. Certainly appreciate everything he's done for the team, but after that BS he pulled in 2005, while all the while smugly claiming "it's just business", I don't have much sympathy at this point.
It's just business Rich, now go man up and take your place on that cesspool of an NFL team. You've been traded, get over it.
I love ya Rodney but shut the #### UP
What? Why should he stfu?
Seymour's ticked off because he figured he'd play hard this year then hit free agency and land on a good team while they backed up the brinks truck for him. But it's hasn't worked out that way and now he's pouting about it.
If I had a buck for every time he has said "it's just business" I'd be able to afford my own football team. It sure seems (at least to me) that he had no intention of sticking around after this season, so it's a variation of "Careful of what you wish for...".
I hope Seymour is in Oakland for 8 - 10 years
And it may make other players on the team think twice before playing hardball with the Pats and appreciate the privalege of playing for this well run perennial contender.
Wow. Way to give him some bad advice, Rodney!
I hope he gets at least $25 mil a year, $75 mil guaranteed, too. Load it up, Big Al!
Maybe this was BB making an example of what happens to you when you fake injury and get called out by the great (formerly) inside reporter, EHIII.
(EDIT: I have no proof he was actually faking injury! I was just kidding. )
Do you have some proof that Seymour was faking injury or just applying the allegation now that Big Sey's been traded?
That would be great, give him tons of cash crazy Al. Its the only thing he cares about.
Seymour has been a wonderful servant of the Patriots, but given the choice between extending him or Wilfork, I'm afraid it's a no brainer. Big Vince, come on down.
Yeah I have proof. Big Sey and I play cards every Tuesday night. He tells me everything about the team, and....
I guess when I used the line about EHIII I assumed people would sense the sarcasm... I guess not. I should have put a "" or a just kidding.. which I was.
That's cool. It's just a pet peeve of mine how some fans feel the need to trash our guys after they leave.
Please post where Wilfork signed an extension. If the team is choosing between the two for the next offseason, they could have just had Seymour play out his contract. BTW, that is what they have done with Green, who just BTW uses $5.4M of cap sapce this year. We certainly could have kept Seymour and dumped him after season.
No need to be a smart arse. I said given the choice between extending the two, I'd rather extend Wilfork than Seymour.
I do agree with the choice.
A pet peeve of mine is a player that looks out for his own interest one day while smugly whipping out the "its just business" card, then gets traded because the franchise takes the same "its just business" route and the player huffs and cries about what happened.
Man up, go play in Oakland like you're supposed to Richard. No offense Sey, "its just business"
I wonder how well this board will fare if Nov. rolls around and Wilfork is still not extended?
Hard to say. Maybe the second aspect of the Sey trade is sending a message to Wilfork. We will pay you well enough if you take a fair deal, keep asking for too much and we will see if Tampa Bay or Seattle has an interest.
I'm pretty sure Patsfans.com will still be here.
How long have you been visiting this site? People trash players while they are still here. And if you have been reading regularly, you would know that our defense sucks, we have no pass rush, we cannot stop the run and lots of other stuff. It isn't like people suddenly turn on a player after he leaves unless he acts like a dick. And then they are trashing him because he is acting like a dick, not because he left the team.
No one trashed Givens or Bledsoe, not many people are fond of the way Milloy and Branch left. THe latter were trashed because of the way they left. Even though as it turns out neither had nothing left in the tank and owed their success to the Pats.
This is a business. Seymour (with advice from his agent and his lawyer) will respond to the 5-day letter and report when it makes business sense to do so.
Business has little to do with "manning up"
Depends on what "manning up" means in this case. If it means follow the rules of the company/organization you work for (the NFL) even if you don't like it, then actually yes- business in this case has everything to do with "manning up".
I expect Seymour to follow the rules of the NFL. On of those rules prescribes the results if Seymour reports and the result if he doesn't. Certainly, under the CBA, Seymour has the right to sit out.
Absolutely. And if he doesn't report, financial consequences are given. I guess the big two questions now are if he will report and if he doesn't what team is he dealing with?
His services have been traded............ that's part of the game. He's a pro NFL player. It makes "business sense" for him to go apply his services to the ones who own his services. PERIOD. Now perhaps he's working out a new deal, or getting family things in order or whatever, and I'll give him the benefit of doubt that he is, and will show up soon.
But his azz should show up there. No getting around it.
Those are the questions. It is messy if he needs to deal with patriots. I would think that wouldn't be the case unless the trade is voided. It would be messy because he is likely to want a no-franchise clause from Oakland.
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