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  1. DarrylS

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    Interesting, where is the outcry... wonder if they paid for Dole's and Limbaugh's Viagra????

    RNC insurance plan covers abortion - Meredith Shiner and Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

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    #24 Jersey

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    I am sure they have an open access plan that covers just about everything. No referrals, no pcp, just show up with 10 bucks.
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    Someone at the RNC should be fired. It is outrageous that people who contribute to the RNC who oppose abortion should have part of their donations to pay for a plan that covers the murder of unborn children.


    These contracts are negotiated eliminating abortion coverage should have been done. This is a disgrace.
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    Maybe someone needed the coverage, one of those wink and a nod things....
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    #24 Jersey

    Someone? Do you really think it was just one "someone" who knew and approved this particular plan? Especially since Cigna says there's always been an "opt-out" available and all policy buyers are so advised?

    How is it that all those people who are so concerned about "wording" in Obama's health care plan never noticed the wording on their own? In 18 years no one who held an RNC Cigna policy ever once looked through their coverage booklet (which is mailed to each policy holder yearly) and noticed or read through that section titled "pregnancy?"

    The only thing outrageous is the hypocrisy.
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    Just for the record - the federal plan, the one that covers The Senate and The House and all the government employees - it doesn't cover abortions unless the mother's life is in grave danger or in cases of rape or incest.

    Go figure.
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    Rep. and Dem. both or is there a difference in the two?
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    No difference - it's one of the same policies which is offered to federal employees at all levels and of all political parties. There are several offered, actually, but this is the company and plan most commonly chosen.
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    I don't understand why this is such a big deal. The Republicans have always been more tolerant and inclusive of differing viewpoints regarding abortion, unlike the Democrats where any sort of dissent against the extreme pro-choice position will not be tolerated.
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    Interesting choice of words.. there is a lot of wiggle room in the Democratic party, there are prochoice and no choice folks in the democratic party... when is the last time it was acceptable for a Republican to run on a platform that supported a woman's choice?? NY 23 comes to mind.

    It always amazes me when the Republican Party is painted as a diverse group that invites dissent, if you look at what his happening in the current schism one of the bones of contention is freedom of choice...

    Look at the conundrum over the health care bill, no republican has stood up for a woman's choice... in fact the opposite is true..
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    #24 Jersey

    Where are you getting this stuff at????

    The Republican core position has always been that all abortions should be illegal everywhere in The United States. You and Michael Steele seem to be the only two people who don't know this.

    In an interview with GQ magazine, the Republican National Committee chairman described abortion as an “individual choice” and said individual states should decide its legality.

    Those comments, predictably, have drawn a sharp rebuke from other Republican leaders who say he should stick to the party’s core position that abortion should be outlawed nationwide.


    Front Row Washington Blog Archive Steele’s abortion comments anger fellow Republicans | Blogs |

    As for some Democrats being "extreme pro-choice" do you even understand what "pro-choice" means? It means exactly what it says - "CHOICE" meaning you can choose to either do something or to not do something but either way it's your choice - and they'll support you either way. Pro-Choice means you're just as welcome to choose to keep your baby as you are to abort it - it doesn't mean you're encouraged to have an abortion, it just means that abortion should be available if you so want or need one. How extreme can you get on a position which does nothing more than offer you options?
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    You can't be serious here. Yes, the official party platform is pro-life, but just because the official party position says one thing doesn't necessarily mean every single Republican subscribes to that belief.

    I mean, what do you think? Every single politician with an (R) after their name has the exact same identical position on every issue?
    You cannot honestly believe this is a purely black and white issue. You can be pro-choice in the first trimester only, or including the 2nd trimester, or all the way through 3 trimesters. You can support (or oppose) parental notification laws, federal funding of abortions, 24 hour waiting periods, whether or not assaulting a pregnant woman who loses her baby can be considered homicide, partial birth abortions, etc, etc.

    Just because someone considers themselves pro-choice does not necessarily mean they fall 100% in line with NOW/NARAL and would support the right to abort in the 8th month of pregnancy, the right for 14 year olds to have abortions without parental consent, and refuse to allow for laws that extend extra legal protection to pregnant victims of assault. There are moderates and extremists within both camps.
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    #24 Jersey

    Pretty much it does, yes, if you look at who gets voted in.

    One theme emerging from the 2006 elections is the ongoing march to extinction in the House of pro-choice Republicans. The already small pro-choice contingent in the GOP caucus was cut in half, as pro-choice Republicans performed much worse than the rest of the party.

    The 110th Congress will feature 13 Republican freshmen who are mostly conservative pro-lifers. None of the 13 Republican freshmen are identifiably pro-choice.
    Election Aborted Careers of Many Pro-Choice Republicans - HUMAN EVENTS
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    I suspect you need some enlightenment... there is also some information in today's blogs about how Cigma supports, "Death Panels".....

    These are states right issues and vary greatly...

    Teen Abortion Laws in the United States

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    You've been bringing some pretty weak stuff to the table lately, and this is just another example. In 2006 and 2008, Republicans got their butts kicked so Republicans of all stripes saw their numbers diminish. Only more conservative districts kept their representation and a lot of moderates from borderline districts were booted out. By an amazing coincidence, we saw increases in the amounts of moderate "blue dog" Democrats during the same time period. Care to wager on those statistics reversing themselves in 2010 and 2012?
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    I suspect you need to work on your reading comprehension. Actually, I don't "suspect" it, I know it because you have this tendency to ignore what someone writes and just go off on an unrelated tangent. Either you are careless, lazy, ignorant, idiotic, or some combination of the above.

    All I said in the statement you responded to was abortion is not a black and white issue. Even people who consider themselves "pro choice" will still disagree about certain issues, and then I gave examples of several of those types of issues. Your post does nothing but support my statements 100%.
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    Here is what you said, continue to obfuscate and try to muddy the waters...


    Which is an innacurate statement...
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    That was my point, Wolfpack. The more conservative Republicans tend to be the religious right - and the more religious right are the ones who are most likely NOT to be pro-choice which is why only the more conservative districts kept their representation and a lot of moderates from borderline districts were booted out.

    This alone gives lie to your theory that "the Republicans have always been more tolerant and inclusive of differing viewpoints regarding abortion."

    Thank you for being the one to point it out so succinctly.
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    Pubbies have allowed pols who are pro abortion to speak at their conventions, the dems OTOH have not allowed pro life speakers like B Casey at their convention.

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