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    Brady must be kicking himself for such a bad performance. Was it the wind? The weather? His shoulder?

    I've noticed that when he two weeks to prepare, his accuracy is much better. Maybe his shoulder needs extra rest.

    Giants look tough..Eli is not choking the way he is supposed to. Their defense looks very tough...hard to run on, if not impossible, and they have a lot of speed in the linebackers and secondary.

    Should be a great game. I hope the Pats win.
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    All the Boston papers are "reporting" that Giselle was at the game (albeit keeping a low profile) could she have been the cause of Tommy's bad game or is the only bad luck charm girlfriend Jessica Simpson? :D
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    Brady won. Nothing else matters. Without Brady they would not have been there.
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    I've heard (yeah, we all know how that goes:rolleyes: ) that Gieselle is at every Pats home game, so I doubt that was it.
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    How did Rivers outplay Brady? Was it the 50% completion rate, or the less than 6 yards and attempt that impressed you? Or was it the zero TDs his offense put up?
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    Since Brady got his team into the endzone, despite not having a good game, I can't say that Rivers out-performed him. Rivers did give a valiant effort on one leg, however.
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    I must've watched a different game than everybody who thought Brady had a bad game yesterday.

    2/3 of his picks were Stallworth's fault. Stallworth made a horrible play on the first pick, obviously didn't read the D the same way Brady did, mistimed his jump, etc. Frankly, I'm a huge Stallworth fan, but he's been a terrible jump ball receiver, and if Brady deserves any onus for the pick, it's that he made a bad decision to throw that ball to Stallworth. He can throw that type of pass to Moss, but not Donte.

    Second pick, Stallworth made at best a half-assed attempt to catch the ball.

    Take those two out, and the day doesn't look so bad for Tom. Brutal weather, good defense. Sometimes I think fans forget there is another team out there on the field.
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    No INTs. That was the biggest thing.
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    Rivers was pitiful. He earned my respect for not pulling an LT, but all this talk I've heard about him playing very well is ridiculous.

    Injured or not, that was a terrible performance where he completed 50% of his passes, averaged 5.7 yards per attempt, threw 2 picks and couldn't lead his team to the end zone once. Brady definitely outplayed him.
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    Agreed, out of 4 close in shots at the EZ, Brady got picked once, but led them to 3 TD's

    In Rivers 4 shots, he only managed 4 FG's. Thats not good or outplaying anyone.

    Great effort on one leg though. True Grit.
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    No INT's? Did you even watch the game? He threw two.
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    HAHAHAHAHA

    Talk about exposing yourself as nothing but a troll. He didn't even watch the game or take the time to look at the boxscore.
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    Brady atoned for his red zone INT by leading his team to score in the 4th and then engineering the final 9:00 minute keep away drive from San Diego.

    Rivers had a better time throwing the mid range passes, while Brady was a better game manager.

    This was a defensive game as I thought I would be.
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    Good grief.
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    "Stinkeroo" ...finally !!

    Frankly, I am glad that the "stinkeroo" has arrived and it didn't cost the Pats a game.

    Every year it seems that Tom has a "stinkeroo" where he throws 3 or usually 4 INTs, and just is not himself. It was due and way overdue. That was a fear that I kept expecting as the season went on. Toward the end, without having had his "stinkeroo", I became even more concerned.

    With that "stinkeroo" game behind him, finally, I fully expect the Pats complete their march to a Perfect Season.

    I don't think the Super Bowl will be close, unlike many of these overrated impossible lines for poor weather games. Vegas has been setting up these long lines, and creating s impossible expectations. The Giants are not strong enough on either Offense to stay with the Pats, or strong enough on Defense, in the backfield, to match the Pats Defense.:D :D
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    I vehemently disagree with this. Brady was bad - and not just "Brady bad" either. He played like a genuinely average QB having a below average day. On the first int, it was a bad decision and a bad throw. Stallworth wasn't really in position to break it up. On the second one, Stallworth didn't make a great attempt to catch it, but it was off as it led him too much (due to pressure from the right side) and the last one was either a terrible decision or a terrible throw.

    Even check out the playcalling down the stretch. I personally think that Brady might have been sick as it seemed that NE was protecting him as if he were a more inexperiened player.

    That doesn't mean that he didn't make his share of plays. It wasn't a Rex Grossman-type debacle, just a bad game.
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    Um...no. One interception and one almost interception that we recovered anyway. So two turnovers.
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    pick #1) If you watch the first INT again, Stallworth slowed up for no reason, and allowed the DB the space to make the play. It wasn't Brady's best decision, I'll give you that, but there was really no reason for that to be a pick. Again, if that's 81 lined up on that play, it's probably a 15 yard catch for Moss.
    pick#2) It was a bad decision, but Stallworth still probably should've caught it, and even if it doesn't, if it gives it more of an effort, it probably doesn't turn into a pick.

    The third pick was another bad decision, but I don't think Brady saw Cromartie, he was hiding behind the O and D linemen.
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    Rivers:

    19-37, 211 yards, 0 tds, 2 ints


    Brady:

    22-33, 209 yards, 2 tds, 3 ints



    Could you kindly explain to me how Rivers outplayed Brady?
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    you are a ******* idiot.
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    THAT'S how he always makes me feel....
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    Every year Brady has one "stinker" game whether it was because of receivers not catching the ball or running wrong routes, it's on Brady. This was that game and thankfully the D stepped up today HUGE in the red zone.

    Now, we all know what happens after his "stinker" game don't we?
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    Stallworth was never really open on the first play. Whether it should have been a pick or not, it was still a lousy decision.

    And it isn't as if Brady was on with the exception of the picks. He was off all night, even on completions.
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    Quick, edit it before anyone notices.
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    yeah,....and he's not gonna make an excuse if he was sick.....
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    You're right. somehow I forgot those.

    Maybe I was just shocked at Brady's. I kind of didn't expect much from Rivers. So he played better than I thought.
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    Rivers played a gutsy game. Props to him.

    Brady threw three picks, including one in the red zone. Those are facts. His take is that the second was a deflection but that the first and the third were great defense. So, no excuses from him, since, if the second pass had been where it should have been, there would have been no deflection. In addition, drives were kept alive by at least two great catches of TB passes that weren't on the money.

    Bottom line: it wasn't Brady's greatest game and a game MVP vote would have been split between Faulk and Maroney or maybe gone to Junior Seau representing the Defense.

    I don't know which QB outplayed the other, but the Pats offense made enough plays to win when they had to do so. None of that takes anything away from Rivers' classy performance.
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    Pick #1 - All on Brady - Crappy throw
    Pick #2 - Tipped ball - **** happens
    Pick #3 - Great play by SD
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    You stuff is generally great, but I gota disagree that is was more then Brady bad or "genuinely average QB having a below average day". That's overstating it a bit. He was bad, don't get me wrong, but an average QB's having a below average day does not lead 5 quality drives in the game. Yeah, one ended a pick (terrible decision by Brady), but still 3 ended up as TD (unlike SD) and one was meant to kill the clock.

    Clearly it was his worst of the year, but an average QB, ala Kitna, Young, etc... probably barely puts up 3 on a below average day against a crappy team, let alone 21 on one of the most talented defensive teams in the league. It was a below average Brady day, that's all. Thankfully he usually follows it up with a great day the next game :D
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    Were you asleep for the 2 I saw?
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