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    Sura 4:24: "And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hands possess."
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    A clash of cultures. Pray for that poor women (and for the girls of the banlieues).

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    What is it about the Islamic culture that has so captivated America's Left Wing, the Islamic culture goes against every human rights issue that the Left Wing claims to support (the brutality, the treatment of women, religion in government etc etc)

    Why would a bleeding heart, kind and caring, organic food eating, Obama fawning, social do gooding liberal who will stand in front of a prison at midnight holding a sign begging for the life of a child molesting serial killer, why will this liberal defend and support a culture that beheads, tortures, stones people to death and treats their women like slaves all in the name of their god, what causes this in the liberal brain?

    American Police Brutality (liberals go insane)
    Beheading Human Beings (liberals go silent)

    :confused::confused::confused:
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    Apparently, they assumed her to be a Jewess:

    She may have been in even greater danger:

    CBS Reporters Cairo Nightmare - NY Post
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    It's easy enough to pick and choose, Brandon.

    I'm not condoning what happened - I'm not condoning the treatment of women under Sharia Law. I am also not condoning picking and choosing of Koran verses which you seem to think prove some point about Islam.

    Don't forget that it was also other Muslims who came to Lara's aid.

    And while you're at it - don't forget (Numbers 31:7-18 )
    Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

    or (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
    When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

    or (Judges 5:30 )
    They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man,
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    Yes, Jews also took captives, as did any army. Are those verses considered operative by an modern Jew? How does MrPFinV feel about those ideas? I can't imagine they have any sway.

    Sura 4:24 and other verses that support the idea that "slave girls" are available to Muslims have not been abrogated. They are part of the way of thinking about kafir women. This group may have not have been particularly Islamic, but those ideas permeate their culture.

    Others:

    Mohammed could cast an even wider net (lucky him!):
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    Thats because the "democrat media" probably won't report it, The Cronkite Media Gang did that all the time to us back in the old days befor FOX BLOGS and Internet.

    It's pretty obvious that the Democrat Media, Obama and the Left Wing are rapidly turning into Anti Semites.
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    Looks like things have changed for the worse for women in Egypt since the 70's (like in most places, we have the Saudis to thank).

    Egypt's harassed women need their own revolution - CNN.com

    I thought this series of photos of the graduating classes at Cairo University was telling:

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    Try looking up statistics for sexual harrassment in the USA. It's hard to do since the keep separate statistics for workplace sexual harassment, school sexual harassment, military harassment, etc., but if you add it up you'll find the statistics here are just about the same.

    Better yet, ask your wife and your daughter - or any female that you know if they've ever been sexually harassed.

    I'd be willing to bet that they'll tell you, "Yes, sure, who hasn't?"
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    I don't think we are talking about the same kind of harassment here. Read the column. My wife and daughter have never had their boobs grabbed while walking down the street.
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    In America, if you look at a woman cross-eyed, or tell her to go make some bacon and eggs, she whines about being sexually harassed.

    Something tells me the standard is a just a little bit different when discussing the activities which constitute "sexual harassment."
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    Really? You've asked them? Neither of them have ever gotten their butt squeezed on the subway? Felt a hand where a hand shouldn't be while standing in a crowd somewhere? Never been "brushed up" against? Never had a doctor or a dentist examine them a little too long or a little too closely? Never been at a party where some drunken acquaintance grabbed their breast or their butt and then was abjectly sorry the next morning?

    Your article says that women have had their boobs grabbed, yes, but your article doesn't state that all of the women who said they were sexually harassed had their boobs grabbed, either. I'm sure some have - maybe even a large portion of them - but I'm equally sure that there are a large percentage of women here in America who will tell you the same thing.

    I will tell you the sad part, Brandon, both here and in Egypt, many of us don't even give it a thought after it's over, especially those of us who ride public transportation. It's just one more fact of life. We go home and shower it away and somehow think that maybe we brought it on ourselves. He!!, most of us expect it to happen at some time or another, especially when we are young. We take as many precautions as we can, we try to stay away from situations where we might run into it, but we can't anticipate it all - hell, a good portion of the time, when we are really young, it comes from relatives and friends of the family, teachers and clergy, and we are virtually powerless against it because of our youth and their status.

    1 in 6 women right here in the USA is raped or has a rape attempted in her lifetime. That's a fact, Brandon. 1 in 6. That means that every time you got to work, if you work with 24 women in your office, at least 4 of them have been victimized brutally. Not just sexually harrassed, but sexually brutalized.

    Most of us consider ourselves dammed lucky if the only thing that happens in our lifetime is getting our butt or boob fondled against our will.
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    What tells you that, WP? What cold hard statistic supports that?
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    This statement highlights the absurdity of your claim. Just out of curiousity, how does the average woman know a doctor or a dentist examined them a "little too long or a little too closely"?

    Do you know how silly you sound? Your paranoia is hilarious. Sometimes a guy who brushes past a woman on the subway is just a guy who is brushing past a woman on the subway. Believe it or not, he may not necessarily be a rapist spawn of satan.
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    Oh just anecdotal evidence, such as your incessant whining anytime anyone says anything to you. For all your feminist bullcrap, fact is you don't want to be treated equally with the guys. You want to be treated with kid gloves and anytime you are not, you go whining straight to the mods.

    Don't worry, Mrs. I understand that as a woman you are much more sensitive so I now treat you with kid gloves too.
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    Right, it's absurd and mere paranoia...

    You really don't know many women well, do you? A lot of women have been raped, abused or harrassed, even if you don't want to acknowledge it. And if you've seen how rape affects a woman you care about, you don't just dismiss it.

    Yeah, most times it is just brushing in a crowd. But clearly that's not what she was referring to, which is why she put it in quotes.

    There certainly are women who make things up, and others who take things the wrong way. The former should face criminal charges themselves, and the latter need to relax. But that doesn't change the fact that many men are as*holes or just stupid, and they're the ones who lead to the bulk of the problems, be it rape, assault or harrassment. That's not paranoia, it's reality.
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