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Read first post - Should owners and employees of sports teams have "Privacy?"

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. lurker1965

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    Let's cut to the chase.

    The owners do not want to open their books because of "privacy."

    Players will object to drug testing, etc. because of "privacy."

    When operating a sports franchise, should owners and people on teir payroll give up any expectation to privacy since they are "public figures."

    Be warned about "Yes." We may get subjected to candid pictures of a naked Paul Perillo passed out drunk.:)

    There is no gray area. If somethings should remain private someone has to decide, and if that is not me then it is wrong.:)
     
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    I voted yes but I emphatically insist that players are tested for drugs and should be subjected to background checks.

    That is the employer's right. Players are employees. Owners are employers.
     
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    The owners shouldn't have to open their books to the public, but I can't see why they can't open them to a third party mediator or even to the players. I don't see why they think they can give the players a sizable paycut without showing any evidence supporting their claim that it's necessary.
     
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    i agree with this 100%
     
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    NFL teams are not public or government agencies; they are private businesses. I would not want my private business's financial info put out there for all to see. Whether those records should be shared among two parties engaged in litigation is another matter.
     
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    I thought the Packers were publicly owned. Is that no longer true?
     
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    No, you are right. And, I believe they have made their financials public. Someone around here was quoting them the other day. All other teams are privately owned.
     
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    I agree. The Players may or may not have a legitimate reason to see the Owners books (as I and others have argued pro and con and ad nauseam in the "Think...think again." thread). The Public does not. The problem is, of course, that once 31 owners turn their records over to a large group of players and league officials the likelihood of leaks is pretty darn high.
     
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    I think the players already blinked on this one... it was just a negotiating red herring
     
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    apples and oranges
     
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    The owners have offered to open their books to a mutually acceptable third party. Opening them to the players will just open them up to pressure of public image by "exposing" expenses that seem worse in public opinion than reality.
     
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    In my opinion there's almost nothing but gray area on this topic, especially when trying to lump those three examples together as one single subject matter.
     
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    Leaks happen. Don't believe me ask the MLB owners who got confidentiality agreement when they opened their books to the union during their strike.
     
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    What if a team has a publicly financed stadium? I think the Patriots and Cowboys are the only ones with 100% private financing.
     
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    The owners didn't actually offer that. What they offered was a couple of numbers, which is not the same thing:

    NFLPA won't agree to 18-game schedule - ESPN
     
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    Who is trying?

    Owners cite a right to privacy when it suits them and player cite a right to privacy when it suits them.

    Oh, the naked Paul Perillo was a joke. (I needed that to get to three.)

    So privacy is only OK sometimes. Who decides? You? Me?

    An impartial third party? OK. Define "impartial."
     
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    I'd like to see the players' financials and find out how much some of them have spent on street bling, black market cars and hard partying.
     
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    They are not asking others to take a pay cut, but 99% of "celebrity" news is none of my business, so TMZ away.:)
     
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