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Rick Gosselin's 2010 First Round Re-Draft

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    I've always liked Gosselin, except I don't understand this in the same article: "Pittsburgh's win Sunday night over Baltimore may have been the most impressive victory of the season." ??? Perhaps from a defensive standpoint, but I do recall the Patriots going on the road and taking that same "impressive" team to the woodshed, and that was on BOTH sides of the ball.

    If we redid 2010 NFL Draft: Cowboys' Dez Bryant a Top-5 pick | Inside the NFL Newsletter | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News

    In his new mock, he has the following Pats as first round picks:

    #4 overall- Devin McCourty (top CB, as Joe Haden is #9)
    #19 overall- Aaron Hernandez
    #30 overall- Rob Gronkowski

    I would be curious to see his second round as well. I'd imagine that Spikes and Cunningham would be potential second rounders based on what they've shown so far.
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    Pittsburgh vs Baltimore really wasn't of that high a quality. It was tough but that was it.

    By the end of the Ravens game the Pats D was brutalizing them, the Pats handed the Steelers an arse whooping for 50 minutes before relaxing and they've just come off a 42 point win over the "most complete team in the NFL" according to many pundits.

    Continue to write off this Patriots sides you stupids.
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    surprised spikes didn't squeeze in there at 32 he does have 61 tackles and an interception, starting every game as a rookie.

    But i can understand why he wasn't included. congrats to McCourty, Hern and Gronk
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    He's got Hernandez over Gronkowski?


    Until he fixes that obvious mistake, there's no use looking at the rest of his list.
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    I agree Gronk is the better all around TE
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    I don't agree, but it's at least arguable that Hernandez has more upside than Gronkowski and hence might be redrafted before him.
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    He should redo the entire 2008 draft. I'd be interested to see where Woodhead lands...
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    He also has Tony Moeaki and his 3 TD's ahead of Gronkowski.
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    Seems a little early for this type of thing, I'd wait until the year is over. Some rookies will possibly be in another 8 games, and at least 4. That's a lot of time. Especially with college season winding down and guys hitting the "wall." Now we're going to start seeing some of the real players.

    Where did you get that from?
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    Pouncey has been awesome, as you'd expect from the highest drafted interior OL in years.

    But #3 overall? Paying him $12.4 million/year, when Nick Mangold's new deal makes him the NFL's highest-paid center at $7.6 million/year? No way, no how. Gosselin should know better.
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    Moeaki has been excellent for the Chiefs. The problem with him has been the same as it was in college: health.
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    I guess it now only takes one month for the azz whooping at Heinz Field to fade into oblivion.

    Both of those teams are "complete" in the sense that their defenses are working toward the ineptitude of the offenses.
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    The draft part is interesting.

    The part with him "stamping" the Steelers as SB favorites is a little over the top. If there's one team the Pats know how to beat, almost systematically, is Pittsburgh and that goes for home and away.
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    Woodhead's been in the NFL a couple years.
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    Kansas City and Cleveland were right to select Eric Berry and Joe Haden, respectively.

    The Chiefs already have Brandon Flowers as their top corner back. Otherwise, I think the top five or seven selections turned out well. If not McCourty, Washington might have selected Mike Williams.
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    OK,let's take a look at Gosselin's mock drafts leading to the draft.

    Mock # 1 Best Player Available ( top 10 )

    1 STL Bradford QB
    2 DET Suh DT
    3 TB McCoy TD
    4 WAS Okung OT
    5 KC Berry S
    6 SEA Williams OT
    7 CLE Clausen QB
    8 OAK Morgan DE
    9 BUF Bulaga OT
    10 JAX Graham DE
    22 NE Kindle OLB

    Mock # 2 Team Need ( top 10 )

    1 STL Bradford QB
    2 DET McCoy DT
    3 TB Suh DT
    4 WAS Clausen QB
    5 KC Okung OT
    6 SEA Williams OT
    7 CLE Berry S
    8 OAK Wilson CB (Yes,Kyle Wilson )
    9 BUF D.Williams DT
    10 JAX Morgan DE
    22 NE Gresham TE

    Mock #3 Final Mock 04/21/2010

    1 STL Bradford QB
    2 DET Suh DT
    3 TB McCoy DT
    4 WAS Okung OT
    5 KC Berry S
    6 SEA T.Williams OT
    7 CLE Morgan OLB
    8 OAK Davis OT
    9 BUF D.Williams DT
    10 JAX Graham DE
    22 NE Earl Thomas S

    Rick,before draft some experts argue so called position value,especially if you draft in top 10,you don't pass on franchise
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    Dez Bryant at 5? Hmmm let's see how he does in the next few years....not very well I suspect. He publishes in the Dallas paper; this must be why Dez is rated so high...
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    Or maybe it's because Dez Bryant was having a great year and supplanted two other receivers to become their #1 target?

    All that talk and debate over Dez Bryant or McCourty, and at the end either one wouldn't have been a bad pick. I'm real happy we got McCourty though.

    People were complaining about why did Belichick waste a 1st rounder on a special teams player.
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    Yea, I really took this re-draft with a grain of salt. It looks like it was put together with not much thought given. He probably just ranked all the rookies and plugged them in regardless of team need or position.
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    Sorry, presed wrong button.
    So,you draft QB,LT,DT,pass rushing DE,CB if you are picking top 10.Remember KC dilema ? Are safties worth a top five picks ? Is a tackle worth far more than a safety ?
    Are centers worth # 3 overall ?
    At that time every ' expert ' was saying that Washington will not pass on Okung for Williams and 8 months later you are saying that McCourty should be their top selection ?Tampa bay didn't need a center,their primery needs were on defensive side ,they took 2 DT's with their top picks.And drafting Jacoby Ford # 8 overall ?
    I DARE YOU ,RICK, to draft any player past first 100 next April,and have him as your top 10 selection.
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    Why would Houston take a QB? Why would Philly take a RB?
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    Why in the world is Colt McCoy in the first round? What?!?!
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    McCoy has looked like the real deal. Any QB that is the real deal is a 1st rounder IMO. Would you take Cassel over Palmer and Leinart?

    I think Gruden is an airhead, but he kept saying that finding a TE that can block and catch is rare, and Gronk does both well. I agree with him on this one - Herby is a 1st rounder in my revised mock, but behind Gronk.
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    Good point. There aren't many positions worthy of #3 money, at least in the old draft.
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    I'll give this guy props for the concept, but between the questionable picks & the love for the Steelers w/out mentioning how the Pats own them, his judgment seems a little dubious.

    And there's this: the game he's got "circled on his calendar" is....St. Louis at Seattle, Jan. 2. Yeah, there's a clash of the titans. Can't wait.
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    The concept is hardly new, although he may have started it at some point.

    Another problem I have is: Why all of a sudden are so many RBs worth 1st round picks again?
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    Right--he didn't actually do a good job w/that.

    I didn't think he originated the concept, just that it's not a bad use of a column.
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    what a hack job...all based on stats....right after the draft, its one stupid blurb after another...

    jermaine gresham has been a very solid TE...not his fault the rest of the team is a joke

    the most impressive was pittsburgh over baltimore? both teams lost to the pats.

    then the notion of 'chicago has the defense to beat anyone'.....yah, no kidding so do the pats.....the only things that can slow down brady are the weather and the soldier field turf
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