Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by patsfan55, Jan 10, 2006.
he dominated during his prime
Hopefully the veterans commitee will come through it's his only chance now.
But it is BS his numbers are better than Orlando Cepeda and he is in I dont get it.
Jerry Rice was rejected by the Hall of Fame?!! That's an outrage!!!
I wonder if the outcome would have been different if he were friendlier to the press during his playing days. He had a reputation (deservedly so or not) of being surly and aloof to the media.
Just my $0.02,
well most voters feel that he didnt dominate long enough
and that while he was the best hitter during his prime, he wasnt that great
thats not what i think, im just repeating what ive heard from voters that didnt vote him in
Or maybe Simeon Rice ? Being a football board, this must be a football player who's being talked about
Bruce Sutter got in. This is a stretch of a corollary, but if Sutter, out of the category of relief pitchers, that is unpopular with hall of fame writer/voters gets in, Adam Vinatieri is getting to be a near lock for the pro football hall of fame. All he needs to do is fatten up his lifetime points scored line.
when i think of rice, i think of him more for breaking a slant from montana into a huge play, than of his big hits.... did he even play defense? or do you mean special teams his rookie year?
ive always posted red sox and celtics news on this board, and have gotten crap from a lot for it, but also have gotten a lot of good feedback and replies for it too
even though there are other boards on here for just red sox, or other stuff, this is bigger news than most, which is what i usually post on the pats board here, since that is where most ppl go
To me, if you have to think about it after reviewing the guy's stats, he shouldn't go to the Hall. Rice had a few great years, but not enough good ones. Plus, unlike guys like Perez or Gil Hodges with similar numbers, his teams didn't excel in the postseason. Maybe it's not fair, but that's life.
This is just ignorant. Jim Rice was the dominant hitter of his time. He had more HR, RBI, Total Bases, slugging %age, OPS and doubles than ANYONE during the span of his career. He had more "great" years than you may realize - pre-steroids and bandboxes - and he was an all-star 8 times and a top-5 MVP candidate FIVE TIMES.
People whose opinions I hold in especially high regard - Gammons and Mike Francesa, say what you will, both know a TON - think it's absurd that Rice isn't in. He's an automatic HOFer. It's ludicrous.
Also ludicrous? Gregg Jeffries got a vote. Walt Weiss got a vote. Hal Morris got FIVE! If these reporters aren't going to respect the responsibility the vote carries, they should be forced to relinquish it.
Jerry Rice was also Ronnie Lott. Notice how similar they were in build (they used camera tricks to come up with slightly different heights and faces) and the fact that they never played together, conveniently playing offence and defence respectively. When he was off-camera, he would sneak into a number 42 Jersey. So, yes, he was a big hitter!
As with my previous posts about conspiracies, I will disappear from this board one day and then you will know I was right all along....
"Black Ink: Batting - 33 (49) (Average HOFer ~ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting - 176 (56) (Average HOFer ~ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting - 42.9 (119) (Average HOFer ~ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting - 146.5 (81) (Likely HOFer > 100)
Overall Rank in parentheses"
Another Desperate Housewife drama/conspiracy. What else would you expect? Next time, take this nonsense to the Rad Sux forum where it belongs.
couldn't agree more. I see them taking this right away from these clowns eventually. and no matter what any writer says, many of them aren't voting him in cuz they hold grudges. he'll get in via the veterans committee - he is an obviously deserving player - there's really no question about that if you watched his career. bozo writers.
couldnt agree more
he basically averaged 100 rbis per year as he finished with 1423 in 16 yrs (two of which he played 24, and 56 games, respectively)
wasnt a great obp guy
but his career slugging was .502
george brett career slugging?
.527 (only one so far on this list ahead of rice)
AND ALL OF THESE GUYS ARE IN THE HALL
six times he finished in top five of mvp voting
Not only should Rice be considered for HOF, I think Dwight Evans should go,too. The Gold Gloves, one of the top HR hitters of the Eighties. He had three years in a row knocking in 100 runs and scoring a 100.
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