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RFA Emmanuel Sanders visits Pats 3/16; signs offer sheet 4/10, sheet matched 4/14

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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    It will be interesting to see what the Steelers do here. If they lose him they'll be paper thin at WR.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    For all those that panicked after Wes moved on to Denver, they should be kicking themselves for feeling that way. This will be a good receiving core if we can land Sanders. Tom is going to have some fun this year.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    We already have a sanders thread..so mods can we merge? i don't know were to post.

    If it's anything more that 4 mill the first year or two..no way they can match it. They are in trouble with the cap. Need $$ for their draft picks. I don't see hoe pitt can match if pats played it smart. They know Pitt can't match a front loaded contract and i bet that's what they did


    4.41 40...quick
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    Nice. I hope this is true. There have been so many conflicting reports, my head is spinning like that little girl from the Poltergeist...
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    QUESTION

    Under the current CBA can a player sign a contract and then restructure during the same contract year?
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    This is true now. Howe reporting it. Pitt newspaper website reporting it. Pitt guys on twitter saying it.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    BB: "Okay, here's our offer. The next two times we play you we'll let it look closer than it actually is so your fans don't completely turn on you."
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    No. He has to wait until at least the second year of his contract.
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    To me, it looks like the Patriots are going after burners at WR. That's excellent news.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    Actually, here's what the CBA says:

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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    agree. Sanders can run
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    Is Sanders a "veteran player"?

    It would be great if we can sign him and then restructure to move the first years salary (other than bonus) to a bonus.

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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    So, yes, Sanders now counts as a veteran.
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    c) No First Refusal Exercise Notice. If the Prior Club does not give the Restricted Free Agent the First Refusal Exercise Notice within the applicable period, the player and the New Club shall be deemed to have entered into a binding agreement, which they shall prompdy formalize in a Player Contract, containing (i) all the Principal Terms; (ii) those terms of the NFL Player Contract not modified by the Principal Terms; and (ii)i such additional terms, not less favorable to the Restricted Free Agent than those contained in the Offer Sheet, as may be agreed upon between the Restricted . . . The player and the New Club may not renegotiate such Player Contract to reduce the Salary in such contract until after the end of the first regular season covered by the Contract. Neither the player nor the New Club may exercise an option in such Player Contract that reduces Salary in the first League Year of such contract until after the end of the first regular season covered by the Contract.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    Maybe Arrington's contract is bonus heavy and backloaded to make room for a 4 year front loaded contract.

    What I don't like about this is that the Steelers have a week to consider it. There is seemingly no reason they wouldn't wait the whole time unless there is a trade. Presumably, the offer involves a good size year one cap hit, so the Patriots need to hold that money back for a week. I am just skeptical that this will work. I think there is a reason RFAs never leave their teams -- only one has moved in four years. Lockng up a few mil for a week while other FAs get signed and then losing him because the Steelers find a way to restructure somebody would stink.

    Also, this doesn't really seem like a really great year to give up a 3d.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    I stand partially corrected. :)

    In any case, the key point is that they ARE allowed to renegotiate in the first year, but there are limits.
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    Agree with this about the 3rd round pick
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    Given what TomPatriot posted above (stupid poorly-organized CBA), it would be hard, since they don't have much cap room, and they have no choice but to match the terms exactly.

    OTOH, looking more closely at the definitions section:

    So it's possible that converting annual salary to signing bonus—so long as the total salary doesn't drop—is allowed.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    Technically, though, that's not quite the right question to ask; the more appropriate question is, "Is there any player at any position that would offer more benefit at that pick in the draft?"

    The answer might still well be "no," but I believe the latter is the question BB asks.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    i didnt read the article but the time stamps dont match up. the steeler article was posted 45 mins before midnight, the herald about an hour ago.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    That happened before midnight. These reports that there was an offer signed occured at about 1:30 ET. So for now Ill stick with what most reports say, but I will take note that this may potentially true.

    EDIT: Yeah, even NFL.com news says that Sanders signed the offer sheet an hour ago.
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    That was The Exorcist! :D
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    Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet

    Get dhb and sanders in for comp and I'm reasonably happy. Of course we still could do with one more in draft
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    There is 3 or 4 more sources that say he signed an offer sheet including espn.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    That's not really the question, though. The question is, what are the chances, of the 25% (might be high) of low (if it's ours) third round picks that make it to their fourth year in the NFL, we will pick one who is also more promising than Emmanuel by that time.
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    re: Emmanuel Sanders signs offer sheet (Unconfirmed report)

    I wouldn't call the reaction to Welker leaving a panic. More like a disappointment. It didn't have to happen and it won't make them better next year.

    Tom will only have fun if he ends up holding another Lombardi while wearing SB rings on all the fingers of one hand. That's a picture that we'd all like to see.
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