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    The HEAT get BURNED. MAVS, Nowitzki win in 6!!! ahahaha I understand why Rex Ryan called his team the Miami Heat of Football... they just don't do it. The IT is winning Championships
     
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    What a great thread...
     
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    I also now understand why he chose FOOTball to coach.... ;)

    <groan>
     
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    Can't stand Rex Ryan and his foot fetish as much as the next guy, but lets face facts - the tub of goo has gotten his team farther than Belichick has gotten his team each of the last two seasons. Mark Sanchez has played deeper into the playoffs than Tom Brady each of the last two seasons. Mark Sanchez has more touchdowns, fewer interceptions, and a higher quarterback rating than Tom Brady the last two seasons in the playoffs.
    Braylon Edwards has made more big plays than any receiver on the Patriots the last two seasons. Same for Cotchery, Holmes, etc.
    We need to face it, the Patriots have folded like a tent come playoff time the last two seasons. If ever a team wasn't going to blow it and, dare I say, choke in the playoffs, it was going to be last year's 14-2 team. There's no way that team should have lost to the NYJ at home in the playoffs. That's what I and 99.99999% of everyone on this board thought. I'm left thinking if a 14-2, pretty dominant team quarterbacked by a league MVP can't win a home playoff game against the #6 seeded team, than what Patriots team can win in the playoffs?
    If you're talking about "IT", the Patriots haven't done "IT" since the 2004 season, and since the 2004 seasons Brady is a very average 5-5 in the playoffs...
     
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    Our team hasn't looked good in the Championship area lately either. :mad:
     
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    I dont have to face any thing..F the jets..I dont care if they win 50 playoff games, they still F'n suck

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/95/336852-jets-suck-merged.html
     
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    In fairness to Rex Ryan, it was Bart Scott who compared the Jets to the Heat. There is a lot of chest thumping and hot air coming from that organization, I can understand why people have trouble remember with obnoxious quote goes with which Jets blowhard.
     
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    Really, you you constant instant gratification driven what have you done for me lately pseudo fans need to face is how pathetic you sound. At least this organization and this HC and QB combo have done IT three times in a decade during which they've never fallen out of contention - which is more than any of their highly touted and seemingly envied peers can come close to claiming. But somehow it's never good enough or recent enough in whatever twisted comparisons their frustrated resident critics choose to engage.

    You should all abandon the closet you uncomfortably occupy in the far reaches of patsfandom and just come out as JETS fans (or better yet post seasonal front running bandwagon fans of whomever wins it all every given year).
     
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    the law of averages caught up w/ TFB and the PATS. Do you expect them to win it every year w/ no hardships??? Last season was suppose to be borderline ugly; we go 14-2 w/ a TOUGH schedule. Scr3wed in 2006 of a SB b/c of a PHANTOM PI... we lost 2007. Our season ended when Spikes came back out of shape and our defense depth chart dwindled to to injury ie- Brace, Wright etc. We all forget about Hernandez and how he technically should have been IRd w/ that hip injury and barely played, when he did play it was not his level of capability. We are a YOUNG Team and we were NOT DEEP in the depth chart to salvage any playoff run when a major injury is sustained.
     
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    Does anyone have a link to the SOS the teams have this season....Pats had one of the tougher schedules last season as you mentioned....

    Found it : http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/35095/2011-strength-of-schedule

    Easier schedule this year with last years rookies having a year's worth of experience and with Warren, Wright and Bodden back healthy (hopefully) should mean another run for the AFCE and a shopt at another SB....

    Going to be fun watching Vereen and
    Ridley to see what they contribute to the youth movement offense...

    Watching BB retool this team on the fly without losing a beat is unbelievable...now see if the kids can finish the job and get to the dance...
     
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    Yes and BB isn't out there comparing his team to losers thinking its a good comparison.
     
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    Yes, BS calls or lack thereof have hurt the Pats in the Pats. As for injuries last year, I seem to recall the Pats winning a super bowl and or making very deep playoff runs with street free agents and guys like Hank Poteat who weren't even playing football when the Pats signed them.
    The saying goes, "You only have so many bites at the apple," and last year this team had a huge f#cking chomp at it. The patriots have been around since 1960 - coming in on 51 seasons. They've had a bye week/and or home field in the playoffs for at least two rounds how many times? You've got to make the MOST of those opportunities. The team worked so f#ckign hard last year, came together before our eyes, and REALLY looked like a team that was going deep in the playoffs. And then they laid a monumental egg at home.
    People that say that's a "bangwagon attitude" are idiots or haven't been fans of this team very long. They probably don't remember what it's like to be 2-14, 1-15, or to watch Steve Grogan, Eason, Millen, etc., get sacked every third time he drops back.
    As a fan, I/we see Brady getting older, I/we see Belichick with another year under his belt (the guy can't/won't coach forever), and I/we see this team getting further and further away from their last championship. Fans that have been around through those TERRIBLE seasons, those of us who BOUGHT tickets and watched Leonard Russell rush 37 times for 80 yards DO NOT want to go back to those times. We saw Hugh Millen, Matt Cavanaugh, Marc Wilson, and a host scrubs quarterbacking this team to a bunch of crap seasons.
    Excuse me if I don't want to go back to those times....
     
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    I'm tired of being called a NYJ fan by you and your ilk - what's your fan profile? When did you hop onboard the pats train? 01? Seriously, I want to know...how often do you go to games? how often do you hike down to training camp in the 95 degree heat?
     
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    You're a NY Jet fan. I held season tickets through all those "bad times" YOU don't ever want to go back to.I attended all the preseason camps from the mid-80's forward.No matter the record, I ALWAYS enjoyed MY Patriots. Sure we had down seasons, but we also had great teams and a shot at the ring now and then. What I REMEMBER is ALWAYS BEING RABID about the Patriots. I still am. You are a poser with a hatred agenda....you always have been and this latest crap is further proof.In fact, I'm willing to bet you have a Ben Dreith autographed football to go with your Namath photos. The dead giveaway is your Sancheese comment....there is NO Patriot fan extant that would ever make that statement. It's preposterous.
     
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    Apparently you think that choosing to follow a team through bad times eventually entitles you to expect if not demand annual championships in good times. That's not how it works. I said after 2001 that they didn't owe me another damn thing, and I meant it. Seems like some of didn't or decided if you could win one you should win 'em all... Doesn't mean I don't want to see them win it all every season. Just means I appreciate the fact that having now won more championships in my lifetime as a fan than I ever dared hope for based on becoming a fan in the Fenway days I realize that nothing is ever a given least of all in this one and done any given Sunday teamwork and coaching as opposed to star driven salary capped league.

    That they have been the most consistently competitive team in the league for a decade in a league where the average players career is 3.5 years and coaches don't fair much better and true franchise QB's are a rarity is OK by me, in fact it is way beyond my wildest dreams. And I'm not remotely ready to move on to what better come next because I grasp that these days may never come again in my lifetime. And rather than piss and moan my way through whatever is left of them I have chosen to embrace them and enjoy the the journey as do those who are most heavily and genuinely invested in it.

    And that's not whining, perpetually dissatisfied fairweather fans...who apparently live to complain about activities they choose to partake in that apparently no longer are resulting in the level of enjoyment they've recently come to expect. In which case I'd suggest they make an alternate emotional and financial investment choice and hope for a better return...although they'd be well advised not to hold their breath because reality is it doesn't get any better than this.
     
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    What's wrong with the Sanchez comment - IT'S THE TRUTH! he and his sh#t team have played better and have gone farther than the Patriots the last two seasons...I don't understand why some Pats fans can't come to grips with this fact....His fat f#ck coach and loudmouth team have been better in the playoffs than the Patriots. There's absolutely no arguing that fact. I suppose if I say Vancouver outplayed the Bruins last game I'm a Vancouver fan? If I say Luongo outplayed Thomas I hate Tim Thomas? If I say Milan Lucic has been terrible this entire series I hate the Bruins?
    Admitting the Patriots have not been as good as the f#cking NYJ the past two post seasons is the first step to recovery...
     
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    I didn't "choose" to be Pats fan - I was born into it, and yeah, fans have a right to be really pissed off, as I am/was, when my team comes out and allows itself to be walked all over by Baltimore and the f#cking NYJ and their loudmouth coach in the playoffs....
     
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    Recovery? From WHAT????? The Rats WERE supposed to run away with the division last season. The Patriots won with a 14-2 record, when even a homer like me had them slated as no better than 8-8, 9-7. You actually think that running to the sidelines begging for help with 4 shots from the 1 yard line shows the RATS are a better team??? The Pats got beat in the playoffs. The RATS got beat in the playoffs. You get ZERO for getting beat in the playoffs...except YOU, of course...you get this need to pick this narrow slice of the season and then put forth that the Rats are a better football team...only a Rat fan would make a point like this, otherwise how can ANYONE say the front running favorites to win the division that fell far short of their bigmouthed blabberations is "the first step to recovery!!". Yes, Patriot fans are disappointed at the outcome of that playoff game. I was AT the game. Brady had a bad game. The Pats squandered two sure scores in the first half. They made uncharacteristic mistakes.We move on. We look at 14-2 and say "how the hell did BB do this with THIS roster????"...You look at it and say "we better be like the Jets!!!!! Road to recovery!!!!". You are an idiotically transparent troll.
     
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    This is the part that I liked:
    If you're talking about "IT", the Patriots haven't done "IT" since the 2004 season, and since the 2004 seasons Brady is a very average 5-5 in the playoffs...

    I do recall a 2007 season that the Patriots made it to the SB. And the season before made to the AFCCG. By Jets standards, that should have them enshrined in the HOF just by achieving those milestones.

    We Patriots fans should want them to win the SB every year.But we can't expect it unless we want to be unrealistic.

    Yes, the Jets did win a playoff game againts the Patriots and I didn't like it and still don't. What did the Jets get for it? A Super Bowl Championship? An AFC Championship? An AFC East Championship? The answer is NOTHING. The same thing that they won the year before. 42 years since thier last Super Bowl appearance.

    But I guess in some Patriots fans eyes the Jets are now superior to the Patriots. Not in my eyes, because they are not.
     
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    oh my goodness you bring the panic button of the Red Sox to a whole new level in exceeding it with your Patriot tale of opportunities as you disregard both YOUTH and INJURY combined, that experience had will make the team stronger in the future.... Our team was a majority of 1st year and 2nd year players


    didn't you get the memo???

    [​IMG]
     
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