Rex Ryan...keeps his mouth shut?

[goheels22002]

He can't even guarantee he'll have a job in week 8.

If Manning goes to Miami, the 2012 AFC East will look like this:

Patriots 12-4 (or better)
Dolphins 10-6 wild card
Bills 9-5
Jets 7-9 (or worse) Rex fired

 

[Angry Man]

I don't think Rex will keep his mouth shut for long. After all he does need to open it to swallow the buffet table at Old Country Buffet.

 

[Ring 6]

He can't even guarantee he'll have a job in week 8.

If Manning goes to Miami, the 2012 AFC East will look like this:

Patriots 12-4 (or better)
Dolphins 10-6 wild card
Bills 9-5
Jets 7-9 (or worse) Rex fired

You really have to be concerned if you are a Jet fan. Their talent at most positions has steadily declined over the last few years and they have huge cap problems.
Look at the roster:
QB sucks
RB Greene is thoroughly medicore and Tomlinson is probably retiring
WR All they have is the most overpaid underproducing loud mouth in the league and are even worse across from him than last year with Grandpa Plaxico
TE Mediocre one dimensional guy
OL Ferguson digressed last year. Mangold is excellent the rest is medicore and going in the wrong direction.
DL Some lunchpail guys but nothing to get excited about
LB They never found anyone to play in Thomas/Taylors spot. Scott is a shadow of his old self as is Pace and both may be cap casualties. They may be down to one effective LB.
DB the safteties stink. Revis is great, Cromartie is severely overpaid.

If you took Revis off this 8-8 team they are probably 3-13. If they keep sliding they may get to 3-13 with Revis.

 

[goheels22002]

You really have to be concerned if you are a Jet fan. Their talent at most positions has steadily declined over the last few years and they have huge cap problems.
Look at the roster:
QB sucks
RB Greene is thoroughly medicore and Tomlinson is probably retiring
WR All they have is the most overpaid underproducing loud mouth in the league and are even worse across from him than last year with Grandpa Plaxico
TE Mediocre one dimensional guy
OL Ferguson digressed last year. Mangold is excellent the rest is medicore and going in the wrong direction.
DL Some lunchpail guys but nothing to get excited about
LB They never found anyone to play in Thomas/Taylors spot. Scott is a shadow of his old self as is Pace and both may be cap casualties. They may be down to one effective LB.
DB the safteties stink. Revis is great, Cromartie is severely overpaid.

If you took Revis off this 8-8 team they are probably 3-13. If they keep sliding they may get to 3-13 with Revis.

The Jets are $750,000 under the cap to start the off-season with $80 million tied up in 10 players. Only 18 guys make a million or more. 35 players are projected to make less than $1 million. The Jets are so top-heavy with a small number of players, their depth is worse than any other team in the division.

A look at the Dolphins and Bills shows a much, much flatter pay scale. The Bills have 28 guys making a million or more with their top guy getting $6 million - $26 million under the cap to start out 2012. The Dolphins have 23 guys making a million or more and start out $7.75 million under the cap.

The Patriots? $28 million under the cap after this week's cuts with 20 guys at $1 million or more. Trader Bill has a ton of dead money in 2012, however - just over $10 million. Even so, he's got $16 million of flexibility with 4 of the top 63 selections in the draft. Nice.

The Jets have the least flexibility with current players. That is tough to deal with when you're a .500 team looking to improve in certain areas.

 

[BTTA]

Only Wrecks could speak up about something and get a thread titled "keeps his mouth shut."

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Only Wrecks could speak up about something and get a thread titled "keeps his mouth shut."

It's (near) equivalent to BB giving an accurate injury report/information on a player.

 

[Rob0729]

The Jets are $750,000 under the cap to start the off-season with $80 million tied up in 10 players. Only 18 guys make a million or more. 35 players are projected to make less than $1 million. The Jets are so top-heavy with a small number of players, their depth is worse than any other team in the division.

A look at the Dolphins and Bills shows a much, much flatter pay scale. The Bills have 28 guys making a million or more with their top guy getting $6 million - $26 million under the cap to start out 2012. The Dolphins have 23 guys making a million or more and start out $7.75 million under the cap.

The Patriots? $28 million under the cap after this week's cuts with 20 guys at $1 million or more. Trader Bill has a ton of dead money in 2012, however - just over $10 million. Even so, he's got $16 million of flexibility with 4 of the top 63 selections in the draft. Nice.

The Jets have the least flexibility with current players. That is tough to deal with when you're a .500 team looking to improve in certain areas.

The Jets are about $8 million under the cap after renegotiating with Ferguson, but they say they are giving Aaron Maybin the first round tender offer (I've heard conflicting numbers from $1.2 million to $2.7 million) and trying to lock up Sione Pouha before he hits free agency ($3-5 million). They won't have any money left after that. And they will need to free up more room just to sign the rookies.

 

[Rob0729]

He can't even guarantee he'll have a job in week 8.

If Manning goes to Miami, the 2012 AFC East will look like this:

Patriots 12-4 (or better)
Dolphins 10-6 wild card
Bills 9-5
Jets 7-9 (or worse) Rex fired

I think the 7-9 record could be true considering the Jets are very likely to be worse next year than this year unless they have a 2006 or 2007 type of draft where they get at least two impact starters. They could lose Pouha who is their best d-lineman and they have a lot of holes to fill without any money.

That said, I don't know if Rex gets canned this year. He has built up a lot of good will with Woody Johnson for back to back AFC Championship appearances. He might need three non-playoff years in a row to get the boot.

 

[Ring 6]

The Jets are about $8 million under the cap after renegotiating with Ferguson, but they say they are giving Aaron Maybin the first round tender offer (I've heard conflicting numbers from $1.2 million to $2.7 million) and trying to lock up Sione Pouha before he hits free agency ($3-5 million). They won't have any money left after that. And they will need to free up more room just to sign the rookies.

8 mill under with how many players under contract? And how many of those are futures contracts guys, practice sqaud guys, etc that werent on an NFL roster last year? That is the variable you need to know how bad it is.

 

[goheels22002]

8 mill under with how many players under contract? And how many of those are futures contracts guys, practice sqaud guys, etc that werent on an NFL roster last year? That is the variable you need to know how bad it is.

Exactly right. While the Jets do not have much dead money right now, they will. They have well over 53 guys under contract right now and no room for draft choices.

The renegotiation of Ferguson's deal helps, but they have a lot of work to do. The Jets salary cap report here: New York Jets Salary Cap tells the story. I do not think it includes D'Brickishaw Ferguson's new number for 2012.

Scroll down the list to the under $1 million guys and there's all sorts of flotsam and jetsam there. Very interesting collection of 9 wide receivers they've stockpiled worth looking at.

 

[BlueThunder]

I looked up caphe11 in the dictionary and it showed the Jet's team photo

 

[BTTA]

The Jets salary cap report here: New York Jets Salary Cap tells the story. I do not think it includes D'Brickishaw Ferguson's new number for 2012.

Scroll down the list to the under $1 million guys and there's all sorts of flotsam and jetsam there. Very interesting collection of 9 wide receivers they've stockpiled worth looking at.

The top of the list is interesting, too. Few of those guys will make a contribution anywhere near their cap hit for this year. Revis, maybe, just because he's so essential to their style of play. Mangold, perhaps.

 

[Rob0729]

Exactly right. While the Jets do not have much dead money right now, they will. They have well over 53 guys under contract right now and no room for draft choices.

The renegotiation of Ferguson's deal helps, but they have a lot of work to do. The Jets salary cap report here: New York Jets Salary Cap tells the story. I do not think it includes D'Brickishaw Ferguson's new number for 2012.

Scroll down the list to the under $1 million guys and there's all sorts of flotsam and jetsam there. Very interesting collection of 9 wide receivers they've stockpiled worth looking at.

Ferguson's contract is reflected. That said, you are right. The Jets are scarily thin at several positions. The whole trading up and only having three or four picks each year (or multiple years) have come back to haunt them.

The thing is a lot of those crappy players at the end of the roster can be replaced with less crappy players for about the same cap hit. Granted in the best free agency in nearly a decade, the Jets will have to sit out of most of the top tier and second tier players. They will have to wait to pick the carcass after other teams with cap money get the better free agents.

I expect the Jets to sign Randy Moss. I think the best free agent they will sign is Jarrett from Baltimore because of Rex's relationship with him. He is a good OLB in the 3-4, but he sucks as a pass rusher which is what they need most.

 

[goheels22002]

Ferguson's contract is reflected. That said, you are right. The Jets are scarily thin at several positions. The whole trading up and only having three or four picks each year (or multiple years) have come back to haunt them.

The thing is a lot of those crappy players at the end of the roster can be replaced with less crappy players for about the same cap hit. Granted in the best free agency in nearly a decade, the Jets will have to sit out of most of the top tier and second tier players. They will have to wait to pick the carcass after other teams with cap money get the better free agents.

I expect the Jets to sign Randy Moss. I think the best free agent they will sign is Jarrett from Baltimore because of Rex's relationship with him. He is a good OLB in the 3-4, but he sucks as a pass rusher which is what they need most.

If D'Brickashaw's cap number is there, it didn't do much for their cap flexibility, really.

If the Jets sign Moss, it would be foolish to get still older at the WR position and put even more pressure on Sanchez to get him his touches even when he can't get open. But that means you are probably correct - everything that makes Moss precisely the wrong guy in NY is why they'll sign him. Moss at Foxboro in a Jets uniform would be fun, though.