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  1. DarrylS

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    From the Army Times, two former Generals are doing ads criticizing the Iraq war.. check out the board of advisors for this org.. interesting group.

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/05/ap_generals_070508/

    WASHINGTON — Two retired Army major generals with experience in Iraq will appear in television commercials critical of President George W. Bush’s handling of the war. The ads, to begin airing Wednesday, take aim at key Republicans in the House of Representatives and the Senate.

    Financed by VoteVets.org, the $500,000 in ads will feature retired Major Generals John Batiste and Paul Eaton, both of whom have criticized civilian leaders of the U.S. Defense Department in the past. Batiste commanded the 1st U.S. Infantry Division in Iraq, and Eaton oversaw training of the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004.

    The commercials are timed to coincide with congressional debate over the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

    The media markets chosen by VoteVets are designed to pressure Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, John Sununu of New Hampshire, John Warner of Virginia and Norm Coleman of Minnesota, all of whom are up for re-election next year. The ads also will run in the congressional districts of Republican Reps. Mary Bono of California, Phil English of Pennsylvania, Randy Kuhl and James Walsh of New York, Jo Ann Emerson of Missouri, Tim Johnson of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan and Michael Castle of Delaware.

    The ads represent the first time former military commanders in Iraq have appeared in commercials to criticize the conduct of the war, now in its fifth year.



    This is the link for Vote Vets:
    http://www.votevets.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=54
     
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    <crickets>

    Chirp chirp...

    I have a related question.

    When the Republicans break the military in a year or two, how will they blame it on the Democrats?
     
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    let's apply the lame excuse used in the "Repubs berate Bush" thread to the generals here...

    clearly, these generals are "misreading the political landscape. The wheel of fortune is turning back in the Republicans favor. The casually uninformed are quickly becoming disenchanted with the shrill rhetoric and impotent gestures coming from the Dems." .... :rolleyes:

    on a side note, how many generals did Adolf sack some 60+ years ago?
     
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    from US News and World Report:


    The grunts on the fround feel differently than these 2 Generals, and what about the hundreds of other Generals who have served in Iraq?
     
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    Geee. dont know where you been, but Eaton and Batiste arent just ordinary grunts or generals for that matter....


    ahem, didnt you say you were an AF guy way back when?? You DO know what guys like Eaton and Batiste were doing in Iraq right? You want we shall discuss Casey too? Or how about the Rumsfeld Budget Revolt of 2006?
     
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    There are/were many Generals involved in Iraq, I am quite sure they are were disagreements among them. Check out WW2 for example.
     
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    Useless windbags. Who sticks around long enough in the military to make General? Guys who like having their knobs polished in public and their boots in private. They should STFU and fade away, like one old soldier said old soldiers are supposed to.
     
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    All over the sites this AM, Batiste was fired from ABC for his comments so much for people speaking their minds.. interesting this article was taken from Army Times.
     
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    Batiste actually lives pretty close to me.

    He's a Patriot for sure, and he disagrees with policy, but his beef ain't what you think. Some people might be confused that he's a "get out now" guy. He's not. If you look deeper, you'll find he is an advocate for more a aggressive tactics and posture, not drawing down an conceding defeat.

    Here's a few examples;

    Last April

    and Last November:

    Hmmmm, November. Wasn't that before the surge? These tactics sound very "surge-like" to me. Can't be though, cause Bush didn't listen to his commanders on the ground :rolleyes: (which was true early on, but why is the real question)



    ................ and Finally, just a few weeks ago


    Like I said, the guy is a patriot, but he is not the most consistent patriot out there and most of his prior statements are ANYTHING but, we must withdraw now, as the tone of the advertisement implies.

    Why is that do you think?
     
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    Covering his butt for not speaking up sooner about Rummie's tactics?

    All of these ex military revisionists have tried , like Tenet, to mask their guilt in a fog of spin. They should have insisted on adaquate forces early on if they truly believed ill served by administration tactics. Many have died for this failure and the rats are leaving the ship before full accountability is doled out.
     
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    Agreed, that’s certainly part of it.
     
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    Would someone explain to me when the last time was that we had this many career military officers publically chastising civilian "leadership"?
     
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    Viet Nam....circa 1974
     

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