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  1. Patters

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    Congress agrees to payroll tax deal; Obama will sign it - latimes.com

    Congress on Friday swiftly approved a two-month extension of the payroll tax holiday, ending for the moment a contentious three-month battle over one of President Obama's top legislative priorities.

    In a near-empty Capitol building, the Senate and then the House signed off on a compromise plan by unanimous consent, a procedural move that allowed the legislation to move to the president's desk without requiring most lawmakers to return to Washington.

    In addition to keeping Social Security payroll taxes at current levels for an additional two months, the deal struck by party leaders Thursday would maintain unemployment insurance for people who have been jobless for an extended period and would block a cut in the payments doctors receive for treating Medicare patients.

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    Friday's action came after House Speaker John A. Boehner backed off his insistence that Congress enact only a full-year extension of the tax break.
     
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    I have seen the "Republican's Cave" title in a few different places. This is one of the problems we have today with politics, reporters and people that follow politics.

    Saying they caved is like saying they gave up and that one side won. The headline should read "Republicans Finally Make the Right Choice" or something like that.

    And that applies to all these political battles not just to when Republicans give in on an issue. Politicians should put the good of the country first. And, when they do, even for what may be seen as selfish reasons, they should not have their nose rubbed in it.

    We all know that politicians have huge egos, why push negatives at them when it will just make them do their best to screw someone or thing in the future?
     
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    #12 Jersey

    cool, though I thought this was about:
     

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    I suppose part of it is sport, and it's enjoyable to see the opposition vanquished once in awhile. Other than that, I agree with you completely.
     
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    McConnell & Boehner fold like a cheap suit once again. This is why the pub establishment hates Gingrich he would challenge the libs they hate that.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    This Newt Gingrich?

    Nancy Pelosi and Newt Gingrich Commercial on Climate Change - YouTube

    Or this Newt Gingrich?

    Read more: Gingrich, Clinton Had Stormy Partnership | Fox News

    How 'bout this one?

    [quoet]"I like the guy so much I want to do a deal with him," Gingrich, then the House speaker, confessed to his outraged lieutenants during a government shutdown almost exactly 16 years ago, according to a book about the stormy Clinton-Gingrich partnership.

    "I respect his ability to think and do," Clinton said of Gingrich this week on Fox News Channel. "And I eventually hammered out a really productive relationship with him."[/quote]

    Read more: Gingrich, Clinton Had Stormy Partnership | Fox News

    Or this?



    Read more: Gingrich, Clinton Had Stormy Partnership | Fox News
     
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    Look up J Wright and the Contract with America or the Special Orders he did all through the 80's.

    BTW Fox News is in the bag for Romney along with the pub establishment.

    Anything Gingrich diod pales in comparison with Romneycare.
     
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    It doesn't matter who's in "the bag" for who if all they're doing is repeating conversations and quoting other sources. They liked Gingrich well enough to hire him, didn't they?

    And all I've posted here is quotes from Gingrich, himself, from Bill Clinton and from the author of a book about the two of them.

    There's no slant involved. There's no commentary involved. The same things are being reported everywhere by anyone who's writing about Gingrich or reporting on his recent debate.

    Besides all that, aren't you one of the ones here who's always telling us how "fair and balanced" FOXNews is and that they're the only ones that can be trusted because they are not mainstream media?
     
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    Nice to know you are a fan of fox news........;)
     
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    typical empty response when brought face-to-face with an untenable position.
     
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    Actually it is a good point to make. It seems like half of this board jumps at any suggestion that FOX News viewers are either stupid or uninformed and yet most of the liberals on this board watch FOX News. Can't have it both ways.
     
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    Have seen the same thing on both sides of the news/blog aisle.. politics are a conciliatory process that means that both sides have to make concessions but in this day and age it is viewed as weakness...

    Making concessions for the good of the country is a strength, not a weakness.. all this does is make the process even more polarized and contentious..
     
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    Read more: Gingrich, Clinton Had Stormy Partnership | Fox News

    Or this?





    Read more: Gingrich, Clinton Had Stormy Partnership | Fox News [/QUOTE]

    What about this?!!
     
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    Nicer to know that you find them to be unfair and imbalanced.

    ;)
     
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    Although the links are to the "Conservative channel," the real media were also aware that Gingritch and Clinton did have to work together during the period in question. Gingritch did, however, rally behind calls to impeach Clinton for getting his sick ducked, regardless of his own comparable behavior at the precise same time.

    By the way - no, it was nothing to do with a "land deal" or any other such crap, and you guys know it.

    You know the messaging, and you know the pretense. Ken Starr's report wasn't so widely read because of brilliant legal scholarship. Go to an American home where this GPO best-seller is on the shelf, take the report down, and let it fall open. It'll be a page about a BJ.

    PFnV
     
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    What!?!?!?!?!? Who's asking it to be both ways? His ploy was to pretend the other poster was a "fan" of Fox News. He's not.

    If a candidate monitors the campaign of his rival, does that make him a "fan" of the opponent?
     

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