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    Republicans blocked a last-ditch effort in the Senate to lift the military's ban on openly gay troops on Thursday, dealing a major blow to gay rights groups and making it unlikely Congress could repeal "don't ask, don't tell" any time soon.

    The 57-40 vote fell three short of the 60 needed to overcome procedural hurdles to lift the 17-year-old ban. Sen. Susan Collins of Maine was the lone Republican voting to advance the bill, and Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia was the only Democrat to vote against it.

    More than 60 senators were expected to support repeal, with at least four Republicans having said they support overturning "don't ask, don't tell."

    But GOP senators were united in demanding that the Senate vote on tax cuts first. They also wanted assurances by Reid they would be given extensive time debate on the defense bill, which contained other divisive provisions including one that would allow abortions at overseas military facilities.

    Democrats had said Thursday morning they remained hopeful a last-minute deal could be struck with Collins, believing her support would persuade other GOP senators - namely Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown and Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski - to advance the legislation.

    In the end, however, Reid said time was running out and called for a vote before a deal could be struck.


    Senate Blocks Repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    I am honestly starting to hate them all. Reid was an *****, too.

    It's like someone gave them each a sack of kittens and told them that whoever drowns them all first wins.
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    These people are unadulterated scum
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    It's great how 57-40 means you lose. :ugh:
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    Prejudice remains in a country where all are supposed to be equal ... disgusting.
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    There has to be something done about a system where the minority can subvert the will of the majority. But I don't think it will happen anytime soon.
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    Certainly not in the next two years, anyhow.

    :D:D:D
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    Just another reason why Obama will be re-elected.

    Equal protection clause, anyone?
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    I actually prefer it when there's an option to do nothing -- for example, to pass a law or spend $.

    But I agree with you both in a situation like this, when it's a choice between A or B. (and that ignores the rights aspect of the issue)
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    I object to the systematic use of technicalities to hold up legislation because one party (so far republicans) can't get what it wants, thats not governing
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    I don't think that enforcing the 14th Amendment should be put to a vote.
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    All this is being done so the top 2% of the wealthiest people in the country can pay less in taxes. I'd like to know just how many people that is. Is this country being held hostage for the benefit of maybe a couple of thousand people at most? :mad:
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    That's wonderful news! Thank you for posting.
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    +1. And yet gay marriage survives in some corners. Hopefully indeed we see the solid majority of citizens no longer having their will subverted.
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    A filibuster is not a "technicality". It was an important procedure which has been in place for over 200 years, designed to prevent the minority party from being overwhelmed on every single vote.
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    Well gee willikers that shore is some complicated mathimatatical compyoutations there!

    Let's see. Roughly 300 millyun Americans. Lets say haff of them are actually in the wurking populations. So carry the one.... add 6.... takeaway 3.... 6 gozinta 24.... that gives us 150 millyun people! 2% of 150 millyun. Yup! Well, gawlee! Just a couple thousand! It shore aint anything like oh I dunno 3 million or anything like that!
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    You are the worst person.
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    I again agree with you.
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    Nope, you're not a bigot... Not at all. You're perfectly tolerant of homosexuals...
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    This from the guy who hijacked a thread which was dedicated to remembering Pearl Harbor, and turned it into a chest-thumping, Patriots-beat-Jets celebration while comparing the New York Jets to the victims of Pearl Harbor.

    And lest anyone thinks I'm joking or exaggerating, I am not. It's all here in black and white so feel free to see for yourselves.

    "Let's all thank the Jets for re-creating last night what it was like for the victims of the attack on Pearl Harbor. 12/06/10, never forget." - Apple Strudel

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/15/707218-ot-please-take-moment.html
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    Wolf would have been right there against blacks serving in the armed forces and interracial marriage, if only he had lived during the good ole days.

    Those were good, solid laws -- after all, the "will of the majority" is what's important, not people's rights.

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