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this is solid getting both would be huge for our team then we can draft a DT like Hankins or someone like Carradine to learn from Abraham and too pair with Jones for years to come
 
Wilson last year was a moderately better version of Patrick Chung.

He's a better leader and has obviously more experience, but other than that he's really not any good anymore. People just see the name and accolades and assume he's still good. I'd rather see Gregory. At least Gregory isn't slow as molasses.

So adrian wilson was a moderately better Special teamer last year? lol

Patrick Chung couldn't hold ihedibo's jock last year
 
Re: John Abraham visiting tomorrow...

d%#*[email protected] need somebody/anybody to get pressure from the edge...REAL pressure...to get the QB's eyes down....as of the Ravens game we had ZEROBODY...hell yeah, kick the tires...and look at Freeney too...and take a player in the draft that has shown an ability to come off the edge....
 
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Need to get someone to play next to Wilfork before you can say that. One of the most overlooked things about the D I thought.

Jeebus, put the Armstead kid next to Vince, with CJones and Abraham outside and that line will give opposing offenses nightmares.

Edit: I see AJ beat me to it by 11 minutes.
 
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I don't want Wilson, but I'm perfectly okay with giving him a chance at low money. Plus, anything that makes PatsFans more tolerable is fine with me.

I definitely want Abraham. A lot.
 
Re: John Abraham visiting tomorrow...

Ok, I follow you.

Jones on one side with Ninko and Abraham on the other would be sweet!!

I'd like to see Jones at LEFT DE. I think his skills will be even better used against RTs and he is stout enough as a run defender.
Abraham on the right side. Ninkovich and Francis can spell him situationally, so he is fresh.
Wilfork and Armstead inside. With Cunningham coming in on passing downs for VW.
Our pass rush is heavily improved because:
1) We have better individual pass rushers on the field
2) With those better skilled rushers we can blitz more and not risk not getting there. We have 3, 4 if you include Nink LBs who can effectively blitz.
3) Adrian Wilson as a sub S/LB in the Rodney mold enhancing the blitz, and we are starting to talk about a fierce pass rush.
This assumes Armstead can bring it up the middle, or we find someone else to complete the puzzle.

Add a corner and this D is really coming together.
 
John Abraham is as old as the pyramids.
 
Don't like the recent reports of Wilson's pass coverage. But there is no arguing at one time he had some of the best instincts at the position. Is it an age thing or just the Arizona defense they were playing in general? I think I'm down on the cheap though. Could be a good BB signing.

Abraham is an ideal savvy veteran signing I could definitely live with. 3rd down specialist who still produces.
 
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I don't want Wilson, but I'm perfectly okay with giving him a chance at low money. Plus, anything that makes PatsFans more tolerable is fine with me.

I definitely want Abraham. A lot.

Why would you NOT want a safety? what's the alternative? either draft or use what you have on the time now, which is garbage.
 
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I'd like to see Jones at LEFT DE. I think his skills will be even better used against RTs and he is stout enough as a run defender.
Abraham on the right side. Ninkovich and Francis can spell him situationally, so he is fresh.
Wilfork and Armstead inside. With Cunningham coming in on passing downs for VW.
Our pass rush is heavily improved because:
1) We have better individual pass rushers on the field
2) With those better skilled rushers we can blitz more and not risk not getting there. We have 3, 4 if you include Nink LBs who can effectively blitz.
3) Adrian Wilson as a sub S/LB in the Rodney mold enhancing the blitz, and we are starting to talk about a fierce pass rush.
This assumes Armstead can bring it up the middle, or we find someone else to complete the puzzle.

Add a corner and this D is really coming together.

I'd like to argue any point you just made...I can't.

Half this board is obsessing over ONE offensive player while ignoring the weakness that MUST be rectified...and that most certainly is the defensive side of the ball, specifically pressure and coverage...while the moaning continues, some of us ARE seeing the Pats making moves that we all agree NEED to be made.

March 15th...jeez...March 15th and everything is supposed to be wired tight and Super Bowl proven...krist...I remember 20 years ago just being happy that it LOOKED LIKE we had a chance to contend for the AFC East....today???...I just read a post by a "Patriot" fan that stated he really hoped and wished Wes Welker wins the Super Bowl with Denver this year....I mean...HUH?????????????????????????????????
 
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Why would you NOT want a safety? what's the alternative? either draft or use what you have on the time now, which is garbage.
Based on last season, Adrian Wilson is a two-down, run-specialist SS. The Cards took him out of their subpackages because he was a liability. If that's what the Pats would be getting, then I don't want him. The Pats don't need another safety that can't cover.

If they anticipate being able to get more than that out of him, then that'd be great.

The alternative is Tavon Wilson. Rookie mistakes in coverage are a lot easier to recover from than mistakes in coverage caused by being old.
 
Ohhhh, John Abraham.

I thought you meant this guy:

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Pity. He's younger.*

:D

*I just felt like saying that. John Abraham's had a productive career... it will be interesting to see what BB can get out of him.
 
Don't like the recent reports of Wilson's pass coverage. But there is no arguing at one time he had some of the best instincts at the position. Is it an age thing or just the Arizona defense they were playing in general? I think I'm down on the cheap though. Could be a good BB signing.
I think it's the Arizona defense they were playing in general. Ray Horton's D wants just speed in their DBs. Belichick's coverage schemes emphasize more on communication and positioning in the secondary, especially for the safetys. That's why a smart and instinctual vet like Wilson would be a great fit here.
 
Re: Report: Adrian Wilson to visit Pats

Based on last season, Adrian Wilson is a two-down, run-specialist SS. The Cards took him out of their subpackages because he was a liability. If that's what the Pats would be getting, then I don't want him. The Pats don't need another safety that can't cover.

If they anticipate being able to get more than that out of him, then that'd be great.

The alternative is Tavon Wilson. Rookie mistakes in coverage are a lot easier to recover from than mistakes in coverage caused by being old.

I'd rather take a former 4 time probowler who can't cover than a nobowler who will never cover
 
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