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    House ethics panel: Rep. Rangel guilty on 11 counts | Raw Story

    A House ethics panel has found Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel of New York guilty on 11 counts of breaking House rules.

    The full ethics committee will next conduct a hearing on the appropriate punishment for the former chairman of the Ways and Means Committee. The committee will then make a recommendation to the House.

    Possible punishments include a House vote deploring Rangel's conduct, a fine and denial of privileges.



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    Corruption is a non-partisan issue and sadly, it seems to have become part of our political system. But Rangel should run out of office for his misdeeds, not scolded and slapped upon the wrist!

    If he's not impeached or whatever the process is to take somone out of congress, then all AMericans are being slapped in the face. I mean, come on...11 frikkn' counts and ALL guilty as charged and they STILL want to allow the SOB to hold his seat?

    No wonder Americans are pissed off!
     
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    C'mon dude. Everyone in office uses rent controlled apartments for personal use.
     
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    I took Charmane out for dinner last night...had a great time RW!
     
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    I'm not sure the people in his district agree with you. These charges have been pending for quite awhile - long before he was elected by a landslide less than two weeks ago.
     
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    That doesn't make it right. The people in John Gotties neighborhood like him too.
     
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    I didn't say it was right - I said they apparently still wanted him to hold his seat and represent them.
     
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    Charlie should resign, he will not nor will the dem caucus force him to resign. That is why the 'trial' was held before the pubbies took over.
     
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    What are you, mean spirited?? This can be explained. I think he was failed by the parents, the neighbors, the community, the schools, the church, the police, and the social services. agencies.:D
     
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    1) How do you force someone to do anything?

    2) It doesn't matter who's running congress....he was tried before a panel which included 4 Dems and 4 Republicans. His punishment will be decided by an equal number of Dems and Republicans.
     
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    The House of Reps can decide whether to seat a Rep or not, example a rep was elected there was a recount the reop won the recount, he was not seated the opponent was. If this can occur surly someone who broke multiple rules of the House for personal financial benefit should not be seated, perhaps a special election.
     
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    Surly...but no matter what the case, it doesn't matter if it's a Democratic House or a Republican one...and saying that the "dems hurried up to try him while it was still a Dem House" is quite misleading, isn't it?
     
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    Ha!! I know you've got your tongue firmly planted in your cheek, but think about it....in a way, it IS the people's fault, isn't it? Not that he was crooked or committed a crime, but that "we, the people" didn't call him on it, thus letting him know, in no uncertain terms, that his actions were inexcusable.

    By voting him back into office, "we, the people" said, in effect, "You weren't in the wrong."

    It's not anyone's fault but his own that he was found guilty, but it WAS someone else's fault that he was still elected to Congress.
     
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    "We, the people" in this case was a voting base that typically is very loyal to "their kind"...yes, I said it!;)

    My guess is that they rationalized voting him with thoughts like, "white people have done stuff like this through out our history, etc., etc."

    As very sad rationale, but my money is that it drove him to get re-elected.

    I still believe the loser should be removed as should all politicians guilty of "cheating the very system that gave him the privaledge to serve it".
     
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    Well, I guess that tells us how uninformed (stupid) his voting base is, doesn't it? What else could explain his re-election?
     
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    So, are you defending his stupid voting base or the idiots in congress who perpetuate corruption of our political system?

    Which is it?
     
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    Sarah Palin's got quite a following and she's been found guilty of ethics violations by The Alaska legislature.....Several people here were big fans of Christine O'Donnell and she, too, is facing charges of ethics violations.

    Same explanation, ya think?
     
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    Rangel is a tax cheat who was chairman of a committee that wrote tax law.

    Democrats defend him by bringing up stuff about people not in office. Funny stuff.
     
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    Rangel knew how to get and cook the bacon ... America the Beautiful.
     
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    Do you actually rationalize unacceptable behavior by pointing out OTHER unacceptable behavior? As I stated in my post (which you must have forgotten to read), ANYONE caught in a ring of political corruption should be removed....period.

    Why would you "just happen" to point out republican examples? Do you think I care about party? I wouldn't care if everyone in congress died today...and I'm serious.

    Anyone arrogant enough to steal or cheat the people who voted them in deserves one thing and one thing only MrsP....and here it is.
     

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