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    I was just reading white house press secratary ari fleishers briefing with reporters at the white house. A reporter questioned him about the search for wmd's and fliesher responded with this.

    ''Make no mistake we have high confidence that iraq has wmd's, that is what this war was about and is about.And we have high confidence it will be found''...

    Apparently, ari fleisher forgot the memo about how the rational for the war changes as the lies are exposed, for going to war in the first place.
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    Condileeza rice on meet the press.

    Condi speaking, the fact of the matter is that we were on september 11, we had a choice to make.

    We could decide that the proximate cause was al Qaeda and the people who flew those planes into buildings and, therefore, we would go after al Qaeda ....or we could take a bolder approach

    Condi rice, said nothing that backs up president bush's '' last resort war''

    Tim russert refused to take her ''statement'' any further, by moving on to syria. I wonder why he let that statement go:D
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    Colin powell in cairo feb 24, 2001 (saddam hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to WMD'S..

    Condi rice on july 2001, we are able to keep saddam hussein from attaining wmd's and his military forces have not been rebuilt.

    I had posted the link for the video it didn't work, I will try again, it's on record what they said.
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    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2729

    This link takes you to the page and the video is right there, just hit the play button.
    Whats it about ?, cia intelligence expert speaking about bush not using bogus info at a speech in cincinatti, why? BECAUSE THE CIA TOLD HIM IT'S BOGUS, bush didn't use it then, he waited, then used at the state of the union address. Doh!!
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    Ok, I am going to sleep and tommorow I will search again for what they said on video to the american public.

    To borrow a phrase, :D We report you decide ;)
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    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

    "Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

    "(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

    "Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

    "There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

    "The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

    "I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

    "Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

    "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

    "The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

    "I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

    "Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

    "Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction." -- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

    "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

    "I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

    "The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

    "(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

    "Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002



    "As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998



    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002



    "Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002
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    Typical lib response... It's Bush's fault when he is handed faulty intelligence but it's not the Clintonista Administration's fault when they are handed faulty intelligence. I see how that works....

    As for your claim that Clinton didn't order an all out attack, seriously, did he do ANYTHING to combat terrorism? Twin Towers 1, USS Cole, Kohbar Towers in SA, 2 embassies destroyed in Africa.... Yet NOTHING from Clinton.

    Oh yeah, he did manage to fire a few cruise missiles and hit a camel in the ass.
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    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4882.htm


    Intelligence leaves no doubt that Iraq continues to possess and conceal lethal weapons
    George Bush, US President 18 March, 2003

    Saddam's removal is necessary to eradicate the threat from his weapons of mass destruction
    Jack Straw, Foreign Secretary 2 April, 2003

    Before people crow about the absence of weapons of mass destruction, I suggest they wait a bit
    Tony Blair 28 April, 2003

    We are asked to accept Saddam decided to destroy those weapons. I say that such a claim is palpably absurd
    Tony Blair, Prime Minister 18 March, 2003

    It is possible Iraqi leaders decided they would destroy them prior to the conflict
    Donald Rumsfeld, US Defense Secretary 28 May, 2003

    Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
    Dick Cheney
    Speech to VFW National Convention
    August 26, 2002


    Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
    George "aWol" Bush
    Speech to UN General Assembly
    September 12, 2002



    If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
    Ari Fleischer
    Press Briefing
    December 2, 2002


    We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
    Ari Fleischer
    Press Briefing
    January 9, 2003


    "25,000 liters of anthrax ... 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin ... materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent ... upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents ... several mobile biological weapons labs ... thousands of Iraqi security personnel ... at work hiding documents and materials from the U.N. inspectors."
    George "aWol" Bush
    State of the Union Address
    January 28, 2003



    We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
    Colin Powell
    Remarks to UN Security Council
    February 5, 2003



    We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.
    George "aWol" Bush
    Radio Address
    February 8, 2003


    So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.
    Colin Powell
    Remarks to UN Security Council
    March 7, 2003


    Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
    George "aWol" Bush
    Address to the Nation
    March 17, 2003


    Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.
    Ari Fleisher
    Press Briefing
    March 21, 2003


    There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.
    Gen. Tommy Franks
    Press Conference
    March 22, 2003


    I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.
    Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman
    Washington Post, p. A27
    March 23, 2003


    One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.
    Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark
    Press Briefing
    March 22, 2003


    We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
    Donald Rumsfeld
    ABC Interview
    March 30, 2003


    Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.
    Neocon scholar Robert Kagan
    Washington Post op-ed
    April 9, 2003


    I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found.
    Ari Fleischer
    Press Briefing
    April 10, 2003


    We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.
    George "aWol" Bush
    NBC Interview
    April 24, 2003


    There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.
    Donald Rumsfeld
    Press Briefing
    April 25, 2003


    We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.
    George "aWol" Bush
    Remarks to Reporters
    May 3, 2003


    I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.
    Colin Powell
    Remarks to Reporters
    May 4, 2003


    We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.
    Donald Rumsfeld
    Fox News Interview
    May 4, 2003


    I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.
    George "aWol" Bush
    Remarks to Reporters
    May 6, 2003


    U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.
    Condoleeza Rice
    Reuters Interview
    May 12, 2003


    I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden.
    Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne
    Press Briefing
    May 13, 2003


    Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.
    Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps
    Interview with Reporters
    May 21, 2003



    Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.
    Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
    NBC Today Show interview
    May 26, 2003



    They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.
    Donald Rumsfeld
    Remarks to Council on Foreign Relations
    May 27, 2003


    For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.
    Paul Wolfowitz
    Vanity Fair interview
    May 28, 2003

    It was a surprise to me then Ă‚Eit remains a surprise to me now Ă‚Ethat we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there.
    Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force
    Press Interview

    But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.
    --George W. Bush
    Interview with TVP Poland
    5/30/2003

    You remember when [Secretary of State] Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons ...They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two...And we'll find more weapons as time goes on And we'll find more weapons as time goes on
    --George W. Bush
    Press Briefing
    5/30/2003

    But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.
    --George W. Bush
    Interview with TVP Poland
    5/30/2003

    You remember when [Secretary of State] Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons ...They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two...And we'll find more weapons as time goes on And we'll find more weapons as time goes on
    --George W. Bush
    Press Briefing
    5/30/2003

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    WARNING: Political statement/quest... If President Bush lied about the WMD's, what about the Democrats?
    President Bush isn't the only person that thought Iraq had WMD's. Former President Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Madeline Albright, Sandy Berger, Nancy Pelosi, Bob Graham, Ted Kennedy, Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, Joseph Lieberman, Robert Byrd, Jay Rockefeller, Henry Waxman, and Hillary Clinton also believed it. Click the link below if you'd like to see actual quotes and when each were said. The article is "Bush lied about WMD's? What about the Democrats?"

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm
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    I'm the Decider? WOO HOO!
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    Honestly this is a compelling look at the the decision to go to war with iraq, and has many high level Intelligence experts discussing in detail the facts.
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    :singing: Clarke, he hates Bush :rocker:
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    You know harry, this train that is coming at you with facts is hard to derail with howls of gibberish.... ;)

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