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    MAIDUGURI, Nigeria (AP) - Nigerian Muslims protesting caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad attacked Christians and burned churches on Saturday, killing at least 15 people in the deadliest confrontation yet in the whirlwind of Muslim anger over the drawings.

    It was the first major protest to erupt over the issue in Africa's most populous nation. An Associated Press reporter saw mobs of Muslim protesters swarm through the city center with machetes, sticks and iron rods. One group threw a tire around a man, poured gas on him and set him ablaze.

    In Libya, the parliament suspended the interior minister after at least 11 people died when his security forces attacked rioters who torched the Italian consulate in Benghazi.

    At the U.S.-Islamic World Forum in Doha, Qatar, U.S. Undersecretary of State Karen Hughes said U.S. newspapers generally did not reprint the caricatures ``because they recognize they are deeply offensive, even blasphemous to the precious convictions of our Muslim friends and neighbors.'' {PWP - We know that statement to be false, given the repeated printing of the Maddona covered with crap or the crucifix in a bottle of urine pictures}
    Grand Imam Mohammed Sayyed Tantawi of al-Azhar University, the world's highest Sunni Muslim seat of learning said the Danish prime minister must apologize for the drawings and further demanded that the world's religious leaders meet to write a law that ``condemns insulting any religion, including the Holy Scriptures and the prophets.'' He said the United Nations should impose the law on all countries.
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    Starting with the Iraq war, the west has certainly stirred the pot. The world is getting a lot safer with every day that Bush's foreign policy goes by, or I suppose you think it's just coincidence the rise of Muslim extremism since Bush became president.
     
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    Were they bombing our embassies and our soldiers buildings prior to Bush getting elected?

    So what were we doing then to provoke their attack? Liberating Kuwait from Iraq? Trying to relieve suffering in Somalia? Trying to redevelop Haiti? Saving the Muslims from genocide in Yugoslavia? Which was it?

    The fact is these people only seem to know violence (look at the history of the region) and it is obvious by their reaction to some cartoons published in a newspaper that had nothing to do with the US. How about the riots in France a country seemingly on their side, it is people such as yourself that hold the belief that they are only reacting to our aggressions, not out of hatred of everything non-muslim, that allow this to happen. By not having the outright condemnation of the entire world calling out the leaders of the non-extreme muslims then this will continue whether America is in Iraq or not, this would be going on even if we didn't go into Iraq, they would use anything that happened in Afghanistan as propaganda for their cause. They are rioting world wide over cartoons, let me repeat that they are rioting world wide over cartoons they are not sane people, maybe it is the strictness of their religion the pents up all this frustration and hatred, I don't know the only thing I know is they are dangerous and they need to be dealt with and that is the true difference that Iraq is making at this point, the fight is being fought on their soil not ours.
     
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    Makes me wonder if your selective memory goes back further than 2000.

    Of course, it wasn't Muslim Extremists, like the 1970 attack on a school bus (9 children, 3 adults), or the 1974 Maalot Massacre, or the airliners it brought down.

    Islam was founded on violent principles, and the only way to solve the problem is to remove it from the face of the earth. Islam has no place in the world today.
     
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    It's my distinct impression that Muslim fundamentalists have gained power since 2000. Do you disagree with that? Before 2000, Muslim radicals engaged in terrorism, but I think things have been getting worse. I don't think things have been this bad since the 1960s or so.

    Chevy, as to your point that Islam was founded in violent principles, so was Christianity. It did not take long before nonbelievers were subjected to all sorts of abuse right into at least the century. In fact, the reason the Middle East is so backward is because of the abusive measures used during Colonialism to try to impose western (ergo Christian) values.
     
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    Everything that happened prior to 2000 is minor compared to where we are now.
     
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    The olympics were minor? The towers in Saudi? Somalia? This I would say IMO is the culmination of decades of ignoring the problems and pretending that they would go away on their own, the majority of the US public probably didn't give the embassy bombings in Africa a second thought at the time but now they pay attention to every terrorist strike no matter what the extent of the damage is. This problem needs to be dealt with and blaming the Americans for it is short sighted.
     
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    The Terrorist Muslim Savage Dog B-astards are "BUSH's & America's Enemy" which means the sore losing Bush hating far left liberals are on the Muslims side, not America's.
    Bad America
    Good little Muslim

    Those scummy slime pigs are trying their best to kill us and all the Bush Hating media can babble about is Dick Cheney's hunting trip.

    The Muslims:
    In a few weeks they will probably start acting up in America, if they do we should have the "Hells Angels" take care of them.

    When the Muslim Pigs bombed the Trade Center in 1993 was that Bush's fault, he was in Texas slapping Ann Richards around.

    Do the Batty Sore Losing American Liberals completely forget that "MUSLIMS" commited 9/11.

    Muslims believe that killing their enemy solves their problem, fine, then we should damn well start killing them. They are bloodthirsty f-cking animals.
     
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    The difference is that the violence done in the name of Christianity was conceived of and driven by men who twisted the word of God. That is, the bible may say "X" and some yahoo interprets is as "Y".

    The violence done in the name of Islam is directed by the word of Allah. The Koran says "Convert them or kill them." No interpretation needed.

    The Middle East is backward because the religion tells them to be that way. It has nothing to do with Western influence.
     
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    Extreme partisans like Patters excuse almost any behaviour by these radicals, and through tortuous 'logic' blame Bush for the violence. Gotta luv the self styled Canterbridgian pseudo-intellectuals.

    Meanwhile, something like Four out of 10 Muslims in Britain want sharia law introduced into parts of the country. Yah, this radical perversion of Islam movement is all Bush's fault. Imagine country after country in Europe 'electing' to have Sharia as the law of the land. Many here may live to see it happen in another generation or so.
     
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    Boy, I'm sure glad these Muslims aren't like the ones in Iraq that we're modernizin'. Heck, modern govermental phylosphy isn't just about majority vote, its also about individual rights, like freedom of expression. If these Muslims were anything like our Muslims in Iraq then there'd be no hope of setting up a tolerant society over there.

    Hey, wait a minute... :eek:
     
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    How much of that has to do with simple media coverage?
     
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    Extreme partisans like Pissah excuse almost any behaviour by the radical right, and through tortuous 'logic' blame all Muslims for the violence. Gotta luv the self styled rationalizing right.

    Meanwhile, something like two 10 Christians in the United want our our laws and government to be based on Christianity. Yah, this radical perversion of American values is all the Muslim's fault. Imagine country after country in Europe 'electing' to have Republican values as the law of the land.
     
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    This is unbelievable. Do you think for one second that invading Afghanistan wasn't "stirring the pot"? If not, why do you not start with that? Or do you think somehow that because you think the invasion of Afghanistan was justified, that Muslim terrorists would conclude the same thing? and that they wouldn't hold it against us? But no, invading IRAQ was not justified in your mind, so you believe it to be reasonable that Muslim terrorists would consider that the beginning of the pot-stirring?

    Others on this thread have mentioned other Islamic acts of extremism, the only thing I would add is that the attacks of 9/11 took years to plan, and the ball was already rolling before Bush got anywhere near the Oval Office.

    Face it -- A lot of this mess we find ourselves in is the direct result of liberal indecision, vacilation, and fear or apathy or whatever it was that caused them not to take care of problems when they were manageable.
     
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    Personal responsibility, BlueTalon. 9/11 happened 8 months into Bush's reign. It happened on his watch. He was the only one who could have stopped it. He failed. Clinton kept our nation safer, Bush I kept our nation safer, Reagan kept our nation safer than Bush II did.

    Yes, Afghanistan would have stirred the pot, too, but creating anarchy right in the heart of the Muslim world (Iraq) did far more damage.

    The mess we find ourselves in has nothing to do with liberal indecision, especially when you consider that liberals haven't been in power since the 1960s. The Republicans have had power largely since the 1980s, yet you're still trying to blame liberals. LOL. You and your kind are responsible for the failures that have led to 3000 dead at the WTC and thousand dead or injured as a result of Bush's policies. It's called personal responsibility, BlueTalon, quit trying to pass the buck when history is not on your side. (Or do you blame LBJ, the last liberal president, for the mess we're in? LOL.)
     
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    Talk about seeing with blinders on;

    Bush is the only one who could have stopped it? How does that explain the Clinton administration INSISTING that Israel release ALL Muslim prisoners in the Oslo accords instead of keeping ones "with blood on their hands" (One of those with his Clinton-based freedom? Mohammed Atta)

    How does that explain these nutbags coming here and planning here months and even years prior to 9/11 and the Bush administration taking office?

    And if anarchy was created in Iraq after the war, what do you think happened in Afghanistan after the Taliban who was firmly in power was removed?

    Nice to see things ONLY from one side.

    Keep blaming HALF of America for all its problems. Its never radical Islam's fault after all. We deserved it right Patters?
     
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    Clinton could have stopped it by being firm in Somalia. He could have stopped it by taking bin Laden when given the opportunity. Jamie Gorelick could have helped stop it by not constructing the wall of seperation between the FBI and CIA that hamstrung our ability to communicate intelligence information amongst ourselves, and Clinton could have helped stop it by not adopting it as policy. Bush is not guiltless, but you are delusional if you assign 100% of the opportunity to stop it and all the blame to him.

    Perhaps, but your previous statement was that the pot started getting stirred with Iraq. I take it by this paragraph that you are admitting your previous statement was wrong.

    Indecisive conduct of the engagement in Somalia, the non-action in Rwanda, the drastic limitations in the Kosovo tiff (not allowing any ground troops in, not allowing combat aircraft to operate below 15,000 ft) and an over-reliance on cruise missiles are what characterized our armed conflicts under Clinton. Going back to the Carter administration, there was only paralysis and a poorly planned and executed raid.*

    *Copied from another thread.

    THE 3000 DEAD AT THE WTC ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF LIBERAL IDIOLOGY AND ACTIONS!!!

    Liberal indecisiveness in Somalia emboldened bin Laden and taught him that Americans will run at the sight of blood.
    Liberal rules prohibited intelligence agencies from communicating with each other.
    Liberal anti-gun sentiments and ever restrictive gun laws kept guns off airplanes, whereas an off duty cop or a pilot with a gun could have stopped everything.
    Liberal weenies for years have counseled us that if we're ever being victimized, we should give the bad guy what he wants instead of fighting back (the prefered conservative method), and so three planeloads of people were lead to believe that the safest course of action was to not to do anything and to let the bad guys do what they want.


    The Islamofascist terrorists, and only they, are responsible for hijacking those planes. But liberals are responsible for the fact that the WTC towers went down, and that the Pentagon got hit, and that 3000 people died, instead of there being four holes in the ground in various fields.
     
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    What 'logic' did I use to assign responsibility to crazed Muslim rioters for their actions killing dozens, yet again? Be specific. I cited yet another example of your rationalizing away specific violence, somehow blaming it on the Great Satan.

    As to 'extreme partisans', YOU and your buddies here are the ones who take ANY topic and pervert it into administration bashing. Look in a mirror.
     
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    More liberal Orwellian speak.
    Tell us oh wise one, which party controlled congress for decades until the mid 90s?

    I know the response, the Ds were closet neocons.
     

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