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    For those that thought Weis was not a great fit in the NFL, and was suited only to the college ranks: Apparently some NFL teams wholeheartedly disagree.

    Per Reiss:

    "October 19, 2006
    Weis & NFL

    Former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis received inquiries from NFL teams during Notre Dame's bye week, but said he plans to stay at Notre Dame, according to a piece in Thursday's Chicago Sun-Times. Weis recently signed a 10-year extension at Notre Dame."

    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

    Just thought it was an interesting development in the Weis story. I, for one, always found it curious that Crennel was courted heavily by at least one NFL team and Weis ended up in the College ranks. I guess his alma mater just means that much to him.
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    The college game can be VERY attractive, when you compare it to the NFL life. The time you have to put into the game is probably half what it is with the NFL. There isn't a lot of time off during the year for an NFL staff, and the money is now almost as good, and in Weis' case he wouldn't do a whole lot better.

    So if he stays at ND, Charlie will have to put in less time, be more likely to be forgiven for any off year he might have, and still makes several million a year. Why would you want to give up that and go into the preasure cooker that is an NFL coach, a league where if you stay 5 years at any position, you are considered long term.

    THe only negative in coaching a major college is recruiting and ND has several built in advantages that make even that onerous job easier.
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    To my knowledge, NEM is the only one here who thinks Weis wouldn't have gotten an NFL HC job after 2004 had he not gone to ND. He didn't "end up" in college, he chose to go there before NFL teams could talk to him. Crennel didn't have contact with NFL teams at that point either, it was still in the regular season.
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    What strikes me as most curious about this is the possibility that some NFL teams -- I wonder who -- are already shopping for a new head coach.
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    I believe that the money is better, certainly if the TV and other revenue is included. Obviously, the lifestyle is much better.
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    College coaches do a lot more travelling. You have to visit the homes of 50 to 75 players to try to reel them in. It ain't all that it's cracked up to be.
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    Let's narrow this down to process of elimination. The fact he was contacted during the bye week might indicate that one of the teams on bye contacted him.

    Teams on bye last week included:

    CLE: a distinct possibility, especially if Weis rebuffed them
    GB: another distinct possibility

    IND, JAX, MIN, NE: no chance

    I'd put my money on either CLE or GB, or both.
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    I hope Charlie stays right where he is and becomes a Notre Dame legend, the NFL will in all likelihood kill him.
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    Then again, it helps when you can can get your players to help:

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    The funny thing is that when Weis first took the job, a torrent of posts here talked about what a lousy job Notre Dame was because of the built-in disadvantages of recruiting there. The conventional wisdom was that ND was handcuffed first by high academic standards, and second by South Bend, Indiana. How can you compete with the likes of a Miami which can recruit any old miscreant off the street for a life of sun and surf? But meanwhile the ND alumni don't understand that reality, have sky-high expectations and will have your head on a platter if you don't succeed.

    So now a dozen of Miami's miscreants are facing suspension, and parents are lining up to send some of the top high school players in the country off to Indiana with Charlie. He's made the job look pretty easy, but IMO that's a testament to his skill.
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    Too little to late for the pros, Charlie is right at home at ND
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    Weis will leave Notre Dame only for two teams:

    (1) New York Giants

    (2) New England Patriots


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    Considering Krispie Kreme's corporate headquarters is located in North Carolina, I think its a pretty good bet that Tummy Tuck will replace John Fox once his Panthers fade. It all makes sense...

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    Here's how I hope it pans out: BB coaches another eight years then retires, Charlie takes over and leads the Patriots to a Super Bowl championship in Brady's final season.
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    ND is what Charlie wanted, and I doubt he'll be lured away from there at LEAST until his son graduates. I agree he'd probably want the Patriots job if and when BB moves on or retires.

    Top recruits ARE interested in ND again, they WANT to play for Weiss and expect that his pro-style offense will get them into the NFL. It is estimated that ND will have a top 1 or 2 recruiting class for the next few years.

    I've only ever rooted for 2 football teams, ND and the Patriots, Charlie going to the Irish was a HUGE thrill for me and I hope he has a legendary career there.

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    Nice break down, but you missed one key point.....

    The article specifies ND's bye week, which pro teams were on a bye is pretty irrelevant.

    To the kind of people making this call, owners/GMs, it doesn't matter if it is a game or bye week since they have little to nothing to do with game prep.

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    Don't underestimate Weis's desire for money. He has a special needs child who requires lifelong care. I can't think of better reason in the world for a sports figure to be greedy than that, except maybe for Dikembe Mutombo's mission to build a whole hospital in his desperately poor home country. (Ditto Manute Bol's attempts to help Sudan, of course.)

    A 10-year contract at ND is probably the most secure financial deal he's going to get.
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    Didja see the kind of donut Huskeralk eats? Check the Trivia thread.... it's all frosted with pink and pastel green icing. I was kinda shocked. Not a very manly pastry. I would have thought him more of a Bear Claw type. .... from the manly Dunkin Donuts of course.


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    I say it's Buffalo. Then from that point forward and forever, the winner of the AFC East will be awarded the Belichick Trophy.
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    That's true for many, but not all. I used to have a job that sent me on 30 trips a year or more, and I very much enjoyed seeing new places and revisiting old places. Some people love that sort of thing.
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    I've been hearing from Giants fans for quite some time that there is one job that Charlie really wants, it's to be HC of the Giants
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    Now that's a franchise I could see making that call before last week. Coughlin has really struggled with dealing with the NFL player mentality. And they invested a bundle in a QB with a supposed can't miss pedigree who remains pretty much an enigma, and with Barber set to retire... Then of course there is Tennessee which I doubt Charlie would want to get involved with unless Floyd was getting canned too, and Baltimore where the offensive guru Billick has floundered since his 2000 SB and just canned his OC too, as did Green in AZ to deflect attention from themselves being on the hot seat (and Green certainly has a talented young offense that could be developed if they could find a HC with the cache to debunk the can't win mentality - wouldn't it be a hoot if Charlie and NEM ended up in the same area code), and SD where Schottenheimer may be on his way out because his GM is not a fan of Martyball induced choking. And then there's whoever believes they will be drafting Quinn in April who might be looking for a package deal.

    I think Charlie will stay the course for at least a few more years though and maybe even for good. It was his non NFL dream job and to leave it would be to lose that forever. He has elevated it again to one of the handful of college jobs that rivals the NFL for $$$ and attention. I doubt he would take any NFL job that didn't offer him either autonomy or pair him with a high functioning FO and ownership that wanted to install the Patriots NFL model top to bottom.

    The rumors will continue to fly annually though regardless of what Charlie says as other college programs use that as a means to try to undercut him for recruiting purposes.
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    Has there ever before been a division where all of the coaches are from the same "family tree?" How about 3/4 of the teams (like the AFCE now)? It's off the hook.

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