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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Yikes...I hope this is him just very frustrated...
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Looks like the Nick Kaczur to LG era is upon us.

    What does everybody think we can get for Mankins?
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    A first rounder in 2015 and a bag of footballs :D For those who cant tell this is a joke.
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    I can't believe how bummed I am about this. Here's to hoping Kaczur is a better LG than he is a RT...
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    No offense, Logan, but take it up with the NFLPA. The players weren't complaining when the CBA bumped the cap up to over $120 million dollars, after all. I absolutely agree that the RFAs are getting hosed, and there's probably been collusion, but the "trade me" stuff doesn't score points with me. You'd only be moving on to another team that was colluding to keep salaries down, after all.
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    Still though, it sucks that he's asking to be traded. What do you think of Kaczur at guard, Deus?
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Damn that hurts. I was actually semi-excited about how the line was shaping up. Think he gets swapped for picks or a player if he's moved?
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

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    On Logan Mankins, I should have noted that Logan Mankins does NOT plan to sign his restricted free agent tender. 3 minutes ago via Echofon
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Thing is the one team you dont play hardball with is the NEP. Who'd take him, Denver? And what for?

    Shame for Mankins. Never struck me as the type but if its all about the money then I guess thats that

    Light at LT and Kazcur at LG. Brady will last 2 weeks
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    I've been suggesting it as a possibility for a couple of years. I generally thought of it as a possible Neal replacement, though, not a Mankins replacement. Kaczur takes more heat than he should from the fan base, but he is a weaker link on the line, and moving him inside would make his greatest weakness (wide lateral movement) much less of an issue.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Don't let the door hit you.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    What a load of crap this trade demand is.
    He should be suing the PA for agreeing to this situation in an uncapped year.
    Who in their right mind is going to trade anything worthwhile for a guard who is expecting to be paid 8 million a year from his new team.
    This makes me so mad that I can barely see straight!
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    The way I see it ... every year almost every team will have 1 premier player who is unhappy. So this year it is Mankins, and other teams have their guys also. Looking at it internally it seems like bad news ... but every team has this problem in some stage of the process. Belichick already has it factored in ... and he factors it in at least 1 year in advance.

    I'm not worried. Mankins may have played every game but he has seriously slowed down. He is not an effective downfield blocker ... he has warts in his game and he can be replaced. Belichick already knows who it will be. Larsen signed his contract early for a reason IMO.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Reiss:
    So roughly $6.5M a year is what the Patriots are offering. I'll admit that does seem low.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    The Broncos just drafted for the position, and they seem happy enough with the rookies that they've got 2 of them running with the first team. The Chiefs would make more sense, if you're looking at sending him to someone in the BB tree. Brian Waters to Logan Mankins would be a huge upgrade.

    However, the idea begs the question: if the Patriots/BB won't pay Mankins, why would the Chiefs/Pioli do it?
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    :confused:

    So.... this is your first year following the Patriots?
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    I don't blame Mankins or any of the other RFA for being pissed or holding out (Revis, Jackson, etc.). They are getting screwed, and whether it is the NFLPA's fault or not they need to take care of themselves.

    If Mankins gets injured, he will never see the big contract he would be getting this year if he was a true free agent. If I were in his position, I think I might be playing hardball as well. Just look at Leon Washington with the Jets.

    Apparently, according to Reiss, Mankins is mad because he feels the Pats promised him they would deal with is contract this offseason. He claims his agent approached them about a contract a year ago, and he was told if he played out 2009 they would deal with him. He thinks they broke his word to him. He says their contract offer was for 20% less than Jhari Evans recent extension with the Saints.

    I not really blaming the Pats, because they have a right to sign who they want. I don't blame Mankins either, because like a lot of the other RFA he is getting screwed by the CBA not being extended. I just hope it works out.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    This. Kaczur at LG would be fine, he can swing anyway. Not sure what we'd get for Mankins, but whatever. Maybe Revis... lol
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    So the Pats have offered Mankins about 2 million more per year than the starting LT (Light) makes. I like Mankins but I'm not down with this. If 6.5 million is an insult, then this guy and his agent have lost all sense of reality.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Well, I see Mankins' *****-fit is in full swing.

    I'm glad they're not offering him a Jahri Evans-like contract, because Mankins ain't the player Evans is.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    I really like Mankins, but his trade value could be worth more than his value. The guards' salaries in this league are out of control. The best guard in the league is still a guard. Still not as important as a LT. He is clearly the Pats' best lineman and there are a lot of question marks on the line, but take another first rounder for the guy if he wants to play games.

    I think ultimately this gets resolved at least for the 2010 season. Unfortunately, it looks like it won't end well. If Mankins is looking to be paid as the top guard, I don't blame them. If they are just being stingy, it is a stupid move.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Wow! After reading Reis' article, I kinda sign with the Pats. Mankins is peissed about getting 7 years, $45 million or $6.5 million a year. I only say kinda because it might not be the money, but how the contract is structured.

    I thought Jahri Evans got far too much. People on this board argued that Revis shouldn't get Asomugha money because the Raiders grossly overpaid him. I argue the same about Mankins since Evans was grossly overpaid.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Mankins is a top level guard. Assuming for the moment (since it's the info we currently have) that the agent's comment about the 20% lower offer is true, the Patriots are trying to lowball Mankins, comparatively speaking.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    look at it this way, any team in the league could have made him an offer and it would have cost them a 1st and 3rd. No one did. I doubt we would get anything close to that in a trade.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    On the bright side this matches my Mankins for Albert Haynesworth trade rumor.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Only if you believe that what Evans was paid was sensible for a guard. Which most people (and front offices) do not

    This is what happens when teams give players silly money (Asamougha, Haynesworth etc)
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    BTW, the Titans made Eugene Amano one of the highest paid guards in the league this February and he only got 5 years, $26.25 million with $18.375 over the first three years. Evans screwed the market.
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    Re: Reiss with bad news on Mankins

    Whether, or not, Evans was paid something "sensible for a guard" is irrelevant to what I posted.
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