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Great news ! I'm not going to get to excited, like the article said, things can change fast, but I am staying optimistic.
Time to panic the season is drawing closer and he still might need surgery. :deadhorse2:
OMG - You ruined it, Rob. Now what will Wrong Borges and Mazz complain about.
I took antibiotics for an infection about 10 years ago. I'm still not sure if they worked or not, so I guess I'm a few weeks away from having a definitive answer on surgery, too. Of course, there's nothing wrong with me, so there's not much reason to expect surgery, but ya never know, right?
This whole Gronk thing seems like another story cooked up by Boston sports media out of pretty thin gruel.
awesome.........when's the next shot with bibi jones?
takes one guy like gronk to balance the scale......the most human human on the pats
The CDC and NIH have just posted releases suggesting that Gronk be on antibiotics, through his 40's, an a matter of national policy.
Unless your infection was on a metal plate inserted to hold together a bone fracture, your experience is irrelevant. Believe me, this is (potentially) a serious business.
...and a collective knock on wood
Hey, we're trying to keep him away from infections.
So no "unexpected setbacks" (just expected ones). I will remain cautiously optimistic, but if he starts the season with the plate in his arm I will hold my breath a little each time he falls or takes a hit.
Hopefully he'll be fine and hopefully they have some really strong pads to protect his forearm, maybe like a flak jacket, but for the forearm.
So do they ever take the plate out or will they leave it in forever??
Should take it out, because another land like the playoffs and it breaks his arm again. That's why he broke his arm the second time I believe.
There are differing opinions on that. Lots of people walking around with metal inside them. But most don;t play NFL football. Problem is the plate increases the probability of a break at the margin of the plate, which is what happened last time he fell.
He has a larger plate than the one he had when he broke his arm the second time. This plate runs the whole length of his forearm. The first one only covered a part of it.
Lots of things are (potentially) serious business. i could (potentially) get killed crossing the street this afternoon.
All this hubbub about Gronk was based on a whole lot of (potentially). He had surgery. The wound got infected. They started a course of aggressive antibiotics. Could the antibiotics have (potentially) failed to stop the infection? Sure. But, at the time the newspaper article was written, there was no evidence that the treatment wasn't working. The whole article was based on the treatment (potentially) not working. Same crap the media pulled with the (potential) for the treatment to not work with Brady's infection.
Let me explain.
When you have surgery to put in a plate (well, flange really) one of the dangers is that the plate becomes the site of a severe bacterial infection. Patients are warned to look out for signs of inflammation and fever and to get in touch with the surgeon as soon as possible if they have any such symptoms. That's what evidently happened in Gronk's case. It is a serious problem and the question now is whether the antibiotic treatment has been sufficient to deal with it.
Yes, the media don't always get their facts right (although I have no reason not to trust Mike Reiss) but, in this case, it's not the media who don't know what they're talking about.
I say encase his entire body in metal plates....The Gronkinator!:rocker:
Growing up in the 60's, I clearly had higher hopes in our technologies by now.
Like a Steve Austin rebuild.
Ok that makes sense now.
Well if they do remove it then when would they and how long to recover from surgery?
Well I just read 11 weeks so he is prob pup to start the season.
Actually, that was the question back when the article appeared. And, since no additional surgery was scheduled at that time, the expectation seemed to be that the antibiotic treatment was sufficient to deal with it. Now, a month later, with no reports of surgeries actually being performed, it continues to appear that the antibiotic treatment was/is working.
The article, at the time, made it sound like additional surgeries were imminent. That appeared to be speculative reporting, at best.
My assumption is that the fairly decent health care system in Boston is probably capable of treating an orthopaedic injury, even with infection complications with a prognosis that is better than career-ending. Could it go bad? Sure, but that would not be the baseline assumption.
BTW, I believe the original source for the doomsday article was Ron Borges, not Mike Reiss.
I didn't read that article and come away with as definitively positive a POV as some here did. Not that it was negative, just felt it read a bit more "so far, so good, but we'll have to see" for me. Anyone else?
The season starts in 18 weeks.
good news..but still a couple of weeks away until we really know
All accounts point to the plate definitely staying in his arm for at least this upcoming season.
I'd imagine that they'll explore taking it out when the season is over, if that's what they feel is best, but I don't think there's any chance in the world that he can play this upcoming season without the plate.
We all have the same concern after seeing what happened, but as rob said--it's a bigger plate this time that runs pretty much the entire length of his forearm, as opposed to the initial one which just took up a smaller area.
I'd have to think that even if they decided to remove the existing plate due to infection concerns, there would still be some sort of smaller replacement involved. Of course none of us really know, but it was my observation from the last series of reports that he'd be playing the season with some sort of plate regardless. That said, that may also have been prior to the latest news too, so take it with a grain of salt.
Absolutely. I feel the same way you do, and that's exactly the impression that I got too.
All anyone seems to know at this point is that they are still in a waiting process to make sure the infection has cleared sufficiently (or not). That will likely be another 2-3 weeks from what the last reports stated several weeks ago.
In the meantime, it's good to hear that he hasn't had any "setbacks," but I don't really think this news proves anything besides the fact that he hasn't had any new problems....they're still in the same waiting period that they've been in.
Of course, some of us will have a more optimistic viewpoint--while others may be more "realistic" or even pessimistic. Unfortunately at this time there doesn't seem to be a clear cut answer anyway you look at it though.
I think you are making light of what could have been and still could be. It is potentially very serious and he still is not in the clear. It has been 6 months since injury and this is the first positive news to be had, it is concerning. It seems like he may have beat the infection. Still him drinking and still acting like a fool during this ordeal did not help as it suppresses immune function.
It's obvious that there is only one remaining solution to the problem that is Gronk's arm;
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