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  1. MoLewisrocks

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    For the first quarter of the season.

    Impressive target percentage for TE - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

    Will be interesting to see how the numbers match up after the next 4 weeks.
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    hmmmm

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    It is interesting that Brady has more incompletions targeting Moss than all his other receivers combined especially since he targeted Moss only once last week.
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    it's no secret that brady had forced the ball to moss a too many times, perhaps to keep moss from complaining.
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    For context, Brady's career completion % is 63.5. His 2010 completion % to date is 69.7.
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    Since there hasn't been any Moss talk on here over the last 2 weeks, I thought I'd add some. Here is the comparison for previous years. I think it speaks volumes:

    2007: 98-160 => 61%
    2008: 69-125 => 55% (this is Cassell)
    2009: 83-138 => 60%
    2010: 9-22 => 41%
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    Not to speak ill of the injured, but Faulk seemed to really struggle catching the ball before his injury. Very unusual for him, especially since several of the drops were checkdown passes.

    It certainly felt like we forced some passes Moss's way. I'm interested to see how the new offense looks. I think everyone expects Hernandez to pick up the slack, but I'd anticipate defenses would focus a bit more on him for the interim. I think Tate might be the guy who sees a lot more throws his way at least early on.
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    No surprise that passes down the field have a lower success rate. This doesn't reflect badly on Moss IMO.
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    looking at those...why dont we throw it to the rb's some more? it seems they can all catch very well

    furthermore, does anyone expect slater to contribute at WR? i was against having him on the 53-man roster, but hopefully this ST ace can do something on offense as well

    though i would like to see what price has too
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    Wow 18 out of 20 passes caught, Hernandez could be our most reliable target if Welker still isn't 100%.

    Moss low 41% is because of all the dumb bombs Brady tossed to him in triple coverage that the odds of completing are .000001%.
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    Time to throw Alge Crumpler the damn ball! ; )
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    Moss' routes are inherently higher risk plays with a lower chance of success. It's also a very small sample size skewed by a game against the best defense in the NFL. (7/12 - 58.33% without the Jets game). Even in 2007 throws to Moss were 98/160 - 61.25%.

    Going on memory alone, I don't think Brady has needed to thread the needle to the other guys much so far this season. He'd throw riskier passes to Moss/Welker before the new guys until he gains more and more confidence in them. There will be games that they aren't getting [as] opened and he'll have to make lower percentage throws but I've been very impressed with the TEs so far this season and it does seem that they have some pretty sticky hands :D
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    I am surprised that Moss has about the same percentage last year as he did in 2007. It looked like last year that many of the passes he would have connected with Brady in 2007 were not made last year (some being Brady's fault and other being Moss).
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    I don't recall seeing any receiver triple covered this season.
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    Team overall miss rate 33/120 .....27.5%
    Moss miss rate ......13/22 59%
    Moss was targetted 18.3% of the time (22/120) but had 39.4% of the misses.
    Am I reading the number right?
    Disclaimer- obviously bombs and the deep ball will have a lower success rate than a checkdown but does this account for the entire difference?????
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    I believe Moss played the Jets twice last year, as well as the Dolphins (0 for 1 this year). And he still came out over 60%. So you can be as selective as you want, but even with Cassell as his QB, the success rate was still 55%. There's a pretty big difference between that and 41%.
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    Another thing to note here is the number of times he was targeted compared to previous years. His stats project to 88 throws his way, compared to 138 last year. Even if you scrap the Miami game and go by the first 3 (21 targets), he still projected to be targeted only 112 times. That's a 20% reduction.
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    I agree, based on the naked eye. I thought maybe it's a result of him getting more deep balls in 2007, but the yards/catch in 2007 and 2009 are identical.
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