Welcome to PatsFans.com

Redskins D strategy vs. Pats

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by PonyExpress, Oct 24, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,660
    Likes Received:
    21
    Ratings:
    +25 / 3 / -0

    IMO one of their priorities will be knocking Welker out of the game by any means necessary. Welker has been taking some hits, but has proved very resilient up to now. The Skins will try to use Landry, Taylor et. al. to deliver some heavy blows, and a late/illegal hit would not surprise me. The absence of Welker, and the uncertain status of Watson, would allow the Redskins to focus even more on Stallworth and Moss, and influence the Pats into more of a running attack. Then the Redskins will make Maroney beat them, and hope to knock him out too, given his injury history and upright style, and their excellent team speed and ability to strike violently. IMO the Redskins D plays with more volence than any other in the NFC, and the hype and underdog status will have them even more hopped up than usual for this game.

    IMO this game will be closer than many expect, and a very good test prior to the Colt game. The Redskins team speed on defense is even superior to that of the Colts, and should prep the Pats for the coming RCA contest.

    Having watched several Redskin games, IMO Campbell has played much better than his numbers suggest, as the Redskin receivers have dropped ball after ball. If they hang onto a few of those passes Sunday, the coming game could be semi-competitive.

    An underrated advantage for the Pats is the fact that Joe Gibbs is practically dribbling his apple sauce. He seems to lack the energy, attention to detail, and sense of urgency that characterize successful coaches in today's game. Gibbs' position seems more honorary than one that involves hands on coaching, and his primary role seems more media snake charmer, and head cheerleader.

    Right now I see this as 27-20 Pats.
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2007
  2. xmarkd400x

    xmarkd400x Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,746
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0

    Your forgetting that they need to tackle randy at the LOS to keep him out of the end zone.
  3. Bobs My Uncle

    Bobs My Uncle PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2005
    Messages:
    2,379
    Likes Received:
    23
    Ratings:
    +42 / 9 / -2

    #12 Jersey

    My guess is the Skins will do whetever they can to stop the Pats passing attack at the expense of exposing themselves to the Pats running attack.

    In fact, I believe we are going to start seeing opposing defenses game plan around forcing the Pats to run and not throw.

    Hopefully Maroney is up to the task.
  4. richpats

    richpats Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2005
    Messages:
    3,499
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    This plays right into the Pats hands if it the elements are messy on Sunday.
  5. 5 Rings for Brady!!

    5 Rings for Brady!! Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    2,753
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    That applesauce comment is priceless! :D

    I really believe that Belichick will outsmart Greg Williams on the Defense.

    As far as shutting down Jason Campbell, he is not very accurate under pressure and his teammates have not been helping his cause. I think they get their points, maybe 17, and we get more....;)
  6. Two Eight

    Two Eight Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2006
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    I think the Pats will use more of the short passing game this week, especially more so than against Miami. 5 - 8 yard sideline routes, not so much of the slants across the middle and I doubt we'll see any deep endzone passes to Moss like last week. I'd like to see Maroney get some yards but as long as we're up I hope he doesn't see more than 1/4 of the snaps.
  7. JoePats

    JoePats Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,145
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    I think defensively against Washington you have to trust the defense to take away the run and then take Cooley and the deep passes out of the game. I don't think Campbell is good enough to lead them on 12 play drives.

    Edit: Didn't see you wanted to focus on the Hogs D against the Pats so...

    I think they're going to let their secondary stand against the receivers and try to pressure Brady so while their secondary is the best we've seen I'll let our receivers stand against them. I'd like to see Maroney run well here and remember he's never going to see a lot of 8 man-in-the-box situations.
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2007
  8. TomBrady'sGoat

    TomBrady'sGoat Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    1,769
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    Is the Washington defense aggressive? Are they overaggressive? I don't know much about them so I'm simply curious. Hard-hitting defenses tend to be overaggressive, and we know that NE likes to frustrate and confuse them.

    I agree. It amazes me that, since NE has flourished with deep passes this year, everyone suddenly forgets that they won two superbowls with an offense based on a short passing attack.
  9. Redskins_XLII

    Redskins_XLII Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2007
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Common mistake. Campbell is completing around 60% of his passes. If you cut all of the nicely thrown balls dropped by receivers in half... it would be around 70%. (Heard this on the John Riggins show yesterday) Campbell has actually been playing very very well. 2 of his ints were from dropped balls. I place this in the hands of the receivers no pun intended.
  10. BeLogical

    BeLogical Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2007
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    We are actually the exact opposite. I bet we have blitzed around 5% of the time. Our secondary has been so good at coverage, the D line can rush 4 and get sacks.

    What's funny, is this style is exactly the opposite of what Gregg Williams normally does.
  11. helliger

    helliger Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    You actually think the Redskins would plan on injuring a player as part of the game plan?


    We're talking about Joe Gibbs not Belicheck here. come on.
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2007
  12. minvardar

    minvardar Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2004
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    That was not necessary, and personally I don't believe anyone except Bill Polian would tell their team to hurt players on purpose.
  13. Oswlek

    Oswlek Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Messages:
    4,182
    Likes Received:
    10
    Ratings:
    +23 / 0 / -0

    I know, because BB has a history of injuring crucial players intentionally. :rolleyes:

    Get the hell outta here.
  14. Bruins_Skins

    Bruins_Skins Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2007
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    He did it with the Giants. It may have been Parcells call, but it happened.
  15. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Messages:
    15,259
    Likes Received:
    86
    Ratings:
    +173 / 2 / -1

    #75 Jersey

    What Washington or any other team will try to do is pressure Brady with the front four + 1 LB. Then they can have 6 or 7 men in coverage. This will open up the running game for LoMo. If he gets off some good runs then they will have to bring a LB or two up andthe passing game willstart clicking.

    The Skins have some good personnel on D so it could be a good test. Better than Dallas? I don't think so overall but close. Better D'backs than Dallas, yes.
  16. chris_in_sunnyvale

    chris_in_sunnyvale Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2005
    Messages:
    2,091
    Likes Received:
    8
    Ratings:
    +8 / 0 / -0

    I expect the Skins to rush 4 and play lots of man coverage underneath. Brady will destroy short zones so by playing man under, they're forcing Tom to be perfect on all of his short throws. If he is perfect, then the Pats still end up picking up yards in small chunks anyway. It will be the classic bend-but-don't-break defense BB is famous for.

    The Pats will have to counter by getting their running game going. This will force Washington to play more guys in the box or get them to bite on play action. If this happens, the Pats will break 30 again. If not, they should still be able to handle the Skins offense and win by something like a 24-17 score.

    Regards,
    Chris
  17. helliger

    helliger Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0


    That wasn't necessary but posting a thread saying the Redskins plan will be to take out Welker by any means necesarry is?

    o.k.:confused:
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2007
  18. PonyExpress

    PonyExpress Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,660
    Likes Received:
    21
    Ratings:
    +25 / 3 / -0

    Behind the scenes, throughout his career, Gibbs has been an ultracompetitive, cut throat coach who preached physical and often brutal play. Coaches generally don't put bounties on players. What they do is order their players to "get physical with him", and every body knows what it means. Knocking a starting QB out of a game remains a badge of honor for a defensive player. The Steelers have for a long time specialized in the low blow to the Qb (see Tom Brady AFCCG 2001, Von Oelhoffen to Palmer in 2005, or even Greg Lloyd's entire career). It's funny how fans watch football and have know idea what actually goes on in this game.
  19. BradyManny

    BradyManny Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2006
    Messages:
    9,771
    Likes Received:
    31
    Ratings:
    +83 / 4 / -0

    Good analysis. Sounds about right. I agree, I don't think this will be the offensive clinic it has been the past few weeks, but might be just as impressive anyway.
  20. minvardar

    minvardar Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2004
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    Why are you confused? I said I did not believe that anyone on the Skins would try to hurt anybody intentionally. But then neither would BB. The question is are you mature enough to refute somebody without coming down to their level?

    Why couldn't you just say "The Redskins would never try to hurt anyone intentionally, they do not play that way" as opposed to saying that BB would do that? Is it really that hard?

    I mean if you are looking to talk football with some people here you will be able to. If you expect all Pats fans to be polite and nice, well I suggest you just go back to a Redskins forum. I certainly wouldn't expect to go to a Skins forum and find everyone praising the Patriots.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>