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  1. PatriotsReign

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    No, its doom and gloom. You've been posting this crap for at least three years.
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    It's doom and gloom.

    Doom and gloom can be a part of reality, but when you only talk about the negative examples of reality, it's doom and gloom, pessimism, fatalism, etc.
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    A broken clock.........

    Misery is dying for company.
  5. PatriotsReign

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    I talk about this stuff because most people don't.

    This is important for us to discuss. And since no one likes it when I post, I'll keep posting it!

    If you guys liked it, I'd stop posting it.....:D

    Enjoy your day
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    You can't get away from that our financial-economic system is unsustainable. Massive deficits, spiralling debts (not just on federal, but also on state and local level), contingent liabilities, a mountain-load of derivatives just waiting to collapse and Congress and the White House just want to continue spend spend spend (even if the two parties want to spend on different things, usually they compromise and spend on everything).

    For all intents and purposes, the western world is bankrupt and that's whats playing out right now. All political attempts to stem the tide are doomed to fail. Plus, the Wests wealth always depended on being able to loot the rest of the world in one way of another. Take Europe, for centuries they looted the world and that worked up to World War I. After WW II western Europe hid under the US security blanket, but now that that's no longer possible they have to run their own affairs... the result? Look no further than the Euro, which has driven millions into unemployment and poverty across most of southern Europe, yet the politicians think that bailing out banks is more important than people (not too dissimilar from here in the US where politicians kept shoveling money to criminal organizations like JP Morgue and Goldman Sucks).

    But since so many don't seem to care, I've stopped caring too. Let it all happen. By the end of Obama II the official national debt will be 20+ trillion (no thanks to CONgress either). And criminal Bernank will keep printing money to give for free to the Wall Street parasites.
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    Most people don't?

    Apparently you don't use the Googles or watch cable news.

    Better yet, go down to an American Legion or a Knights of Columbus, order a Coke and just sit back and listen to the old guys bich about the world. It's fun!
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    Obamas gonna make things better.

    Yes we can. Just watch.
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    Whether people want to admit it or not, this IS REALITY people....

    It sure aint about Kumbaya, we are the world reality TV!!

    wake up!!
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    I know, they're "almost" as bad as those who sit around playing video games on their iphones or text all day about nothing and don't work.

    I'll take the guys at the KOC wistah!
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    Duuuh, where do ya think PR is typing from? :D
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    From outside your house....and you still look tired shmessy.;)
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    I will be watching, and it ain't gonna get better. Not that it would have been better under Hedge Fund Willard. That elections we just had? Doesn't make a difference in the greater perspective of things. Neither want(s)(ed) to do anything serious about the deficit, debt, derivatives or contingent liabilities.

    There is real wealth but the real level is lower than the western world is used to.

    Just because O's presentation is better than that of W, content-wise there is very little change.
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    Yes!!!

    Let's all actually READ that Reuters link that PR included in his OP.

    Wake up to the catastrophe and save your children from the vision of a cut in 4th quarter economic GDP GROWTH forecasts from 2.2% to 1.8%.

    Stock up on guns, ammo and fresh water everyone!!!!!!!!
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    Maybe for a while, but I fill in bartending at one on occasion, and I can tell you that they are the most miserable, angry, whiners on the planet. Great guys individually, but when they start one of those half-in-the-bag rant sessions up and down the bar, it makes for a long night. Most of them are just pissed because they're old and many are in lots of pain and discomfort, so the world isn't very sunny and bright anymore.
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    If a recession is better for us long term, why would you be against it?

    Are you a "can kicker"?
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    Fresh as a daisy and far wealthier than 4 years ago, PR! :D
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    Not at all. My major gripe with Obama has always been his shelving of Simpson-Bowles.

    A recession is neither good nor bad for us in the long-term.

    Long-term policy is what is important, not the inevitable (but high ratings-getting) short-term waves.
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    wistah, that's what old people have done for decades. Most of us remember the good old days as being "good". Then we get upset and scared over the fact our days are coming to an end.

    But it's no surprise that you find miserable people in a DRINKING establishment. I'd guess that all "regulars" at any bar are miserable. They were at the bar I drank at. Drinking makes a lot of people miserable
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    So we need to get our spending in-line with our revenues and our revenues more in line with our spending.....so we know it's the right thing to do.

    Why keep waiting? We ARE in a LOT of trouble economically. But so is the entire global economy (see OP).
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    Romney had a better chance of turning things around than Obama ever will.
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    Is your ego that big that you constantly have to tell everyone about how "well" you do?

    You tell everyone that you live in a supposedly "really nice" (wealthy town)...you just come across as trying to impress members...and guess what? No one's impressed buddy...no one cares really.

    You told the entire board not only what you do for a living, but that you are responsible for $55M portfolio.

    We're all the same here shmessy....you need to accept that entirely.

    Hey everyone, look at how well shmessy is doing!!

    Sadly, no one knows what a shmessy is.....
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    shmessy.......still riding the high.......


    enlightened = mooch
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    #75 Jersey

    They should try meditation.
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    Say it enough times over and over again. Dick Morris and Karl Rove taught you that.

    I'll go with the experts living in the real world.
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    PR with his class warfare bitterness again. :D

    So sad.

    And - if you can read - I didn't write that I was "wealthy". Just "wealthier than 4 years ago" - - we are talking about economic performance of the Obama Administration.

    If you want to morph that into something that reflects your personal feelings about YOUR self-image, then that is your problem......and I will pray for you, because, given the consistently dark tone of the threads you originate.......
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    Enlightened = Knowledge

    Facts over Belief.

    You should have learned that from the election.
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    But... but... Rove's internal polls say Rmoney should have won...

    WAHHHHHH!

    We got a cliff, we got Europe, it's back to work, and yes, the pubbies are still holding the House.

    So it's a question of when they're getting with the program for a balanced approach to reduction of debt/deficits.

    By the way, why are they all so against the sequestration thing? Isn't it exactly what the pubbies claim to want, reduction of the debt as if it's all in a vacuum and you can't consider the actual facts on the ground?

    I understand why Dems are against it -- after all, it'll plunge us back into a recession and buy us 9% unemployment. But that shouldn't really matter to pubbies, should it?

    "The first thing you should do when you're in a hole... is stop digging" :rolleyes:

    OMG OMG we never noticed before for 230 years but there's a national debt!

    Yeah let's stop the economy in its tracks and pay it off at all costs! Isn't that pretty much what the Pubbies want, at least when they make their campaign ads?

    PFnV
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    We're in the same class....

    So sad indeed
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    You're wasting your time talking to these people. They honestly don't understand just how bad things are and believe that big government will save them when in reality it is the anchor and chain around their neck that will drown them.
    When I confront Progressives with the fact that each and every American taxpayer owes about $141,713 from our debt, I get responses like this:

    "So...it's not like we'd repay it anyways"

    "We owe most of it to ourselves(meaning Americans)"

    "Well, then we'll just get it from the rich"

    "We can always print more money"

    U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time


    They are the same people who helped create and whistled all the way to the Real Estate bubble (while denying there would be any problem).

    C-SPAN Democrats Cover Up Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac - Housing Crash - YouTube

    Democrats were WARNED of Financial crisis and did NOTHING - YouTube

    Barney Frank in 2005: What Housing Bubble? - YouTube


    So save your breath and prepare for the coming financial crisis for yourself and your family. The mob wants it's "Bread and Circuses" today and could care less about tomorrow.
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