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Real SB MVP: Ball taken out of P's hands

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  1. Gumby

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    Who was the real SB MVP: I go for Colts OC Moore.

    In the very first Indy Drive even as the announcer is saying that Peyton had told him their game plan was to go underneath and take anything the Bears would give them. Peyton just can't resist and thinks the 'laser whatever arm' can complete anything and throws the deep ball INT.


    Subsequent to that drive there is a significant shift in play calling for the rest of the game. The RUN % is higly exaggerated.

    If you count all the passes to the RBs in the flat or screens as just extra RB handoffs without Peyton having to make any hard reads or decisions and the numbers go up even further. The way I see it; Peyton WENT OFF THE RESERVATION ON THE GAME PLAN; so the OC REIGNED HIM IN FOR THE REST OF THE GAME.

    Drive 1: Runs: 1/5 RB Pass: 1 Inc Pass: 2 Pass: 1 - INT
    Drive 2: R: 5/11 RBP: 1 IP: 1 P: 4
    Drive 3: ? Fumble credited to Peyton
    Drive 4: R: 1/3 RBP: 1 Inc: 1
    Drive 5: R: 1/3 IP: 2
    Drive 6: R: 3/7 RBP: 2 P: 2
    Drive 7: R: 4/7 P: 3
    Drive 8: R: 3/7 RBP: 3 IP: 1
    Drive 9: R: 2/3 IP: 1
    Drive 10: R: 6/12 RBP: 4 P: 2
    Drive 11: R: 3/5 IP: 2
    Drive 12: R: 3/6 IP: 1 P: 2
    Drive 13: R: 2/3 IP: 1
    Drive 14: R: 7/7

    Totals: Excluding the first drive as PRE-Peyton ERROR and last drive as the clock killing close out drive:
    Runs: 33/60 = 55%
    The Running back passes = 11/60 = 18%

    Does that sound like the normal Indy offense with Peyton throwing the ball. It really appears to me that the reason Indy was able to win (EXCLUDING THE OBVIOUS TOTAL INCOMPETENCE OF CHICAGO TO MOVE THE BALL AT ALL) was that they essentially took Peyton out of the game at least MENTALLY. They put him into position where he didnt have to make any decsions.

    Now I know some will say that those RB passes were Peyton making decisiosn and just going to his check downs. But my recollection is that almost all of them were scripted plays to go to those guys coming out of backfield. They were the PRIME RECEIVER.

    IMO if chicago had been MINIMALLY competent to move the ball and take advantage of the INTs and FUMBLEs and Hestors free 7 pts; then the Colts would have had to make Peyton MAKE SOME PLAYS. Then who knows.

    I just think looking at the numbers that it makes no sense to identify Peyton as the MVP if they couldn't rely on him to do his job. And the evidence to me says they could not.

    But it is all over and done with. Just one more trophy for the Manning Media Machine.
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    In my opinion Addai-Rhodes.
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    Addai-Rhodes co-mvp.

    Manning was getting the MVP regardless of outcome, provided the colts won the game. Stats did not matter, he could have been injured in the 1st quarter with a 0.0 QB rating and 2 interceptiosn and not played the rest of the game and still won the superbowl MVP.
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    What will go unnoticed from all this "Peyton finally wins the big one" hoopla is his fair-to-poor performances during the SB run, which are pretty much status quo for Peyton in the playoffs.

    Check out his composite postseason numbers:

    Comp/Att (Pct): 97/153 (63.4)
    Yards (YPA): 1034 (6.76)
    TDs: 3
    INTs: 7 (!!!)

    QB Rating of 70.5 ...amazing.

    I don't care if he has a ring, he's still not that great in the playoffs.
  5. RyanTheColtsFan

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    He was beyond GREAT in the second half of the AFC Championship game. Without him, the Colts dont get to hand off to Addai/Rhodes.

    MVP - Bob Sanders. 1INT, 1FF, A few tackles... guy is a machine
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    Come on, what do you have against your own all pro quarterback? Most QBs probably **** it up royally in that driving rain, like Grossman did. Grudgingly here, but Peyton has the big strong hands, the strong, super accurate arm, and the experience in all kinds of weather situations to do what he had to do on that crappy day. I really think anybody else but him or Brady would have made it anybody's game. Sanders can't be in on every single defensive play, nowhere close, but your QB is in on every single offensive play. Give the guy his due.
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    I thought we all agreed it was Grossman.
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    If you think 7 picks in the playoffs will get you another Lombardi you're dreaming. I was impressed how he could torch our 3rd-string LBs. Didn't see too much from your wideouts that game did we?

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